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From: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
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On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 4:56 PM, Martin K. Petersen
<martin.petersen@oracle.com> wrote:
>>>>>> "Dan" == Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com> writes:
>
> Dan> Yes, ill conceived "value add" is indeed toxic.  Is that the only
> Dan> contributor factor to indefinite patch acceptance latency?  We're
> Dan> missing a mechanism to allow for experimentation without 1/ risking
> Dan> the quality of the rest of the kernel 2/ committing to carrying the
> Dan> experiment upstream indefinitely.
>
> Another problem in the value-add department is what hw vendor FOO is
> unlikely to collaborate with main competitor BAR on a common
> interface. Friendly collaboration works for us Linux folks but is rare
> (although it does happen) in the driver space.

If both vendors put their "experiments" upstream, maybe we as a
community have a better chance of finding commonality to up-level to
libraries?