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From: Olof Johansson <olof@lixom.net>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Cristina Moraru <cristina.moraru09@gmail.com>,
	ksummit <ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [TECH TOPIC] is Kconfig a bit hard sometimes?
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2017 14:16:46 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAOesGMimO1rYi7RpcsZYX9uDgWUJdv4XSgQR+RJaaS2qt_FCLw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFyvssxg63UoQ-rOaf1TMacJ6T5jyLkWECosQJ_N=9gaaQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 12:27 PM, Linus Torvalds
<torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 11:44 AM, Luis R. Rodriguez <mcgrof@kernel.org> wrote:
>>
>> Such things exist now:
>>
>> make kvmconfig
>> make xenconfig
>
> Not really. Not for normal users. Those are literally only for the
> special cases that are *not* normal.
>
>> So you mean a menu of the defconfigs ?
>
> No. The defconfigs are useless. They are fundamentally broken, excatly
> because there is never one config that can work.
>
> They do need to be of the "kvmconfig" type, but for sane subconfirurations.
>
> So I'd look for something like
>
>     make modernpcconfig # enable minimal modern PC workstation stuff
>     make f25config  # enable minimal stuff required for F25
>     make amdconfig # enable the core modern AMD stuff
>
> or something like that.

It sounds to me like you want to turn it from option/driver selection
to feature selection, where features could be stuff like:
 * Basic config for modern PC
  - Intel-based
  - AMD-based
 * DBasic configs for distros
  - F25
  - Debian Jessie
  - ...
 * Virtualization
  - Platform support
    + Intel (default platform support && basic-config-for-intel)
    + AMD
  - Paravirt support
    + Drivers for paravirt platform [...]


Is that a correct interpretation of what you have in mind?


So, a meta config layer if seen in the context of our current config system.

If we were to do this incrementally with current Kconfig on the
backend, I think most of the above could be done as one config action,
that in turn would select a set of kconfig snippets on the backend,
concatenate them all and give you the config to build with.



-Olof

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-06-27 21:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-06-27 13:58 Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-27 17:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-06-27 18:44   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-06-27 19:27     ` Linus Torvalds
2017-06-27 20:53       ` Kees Cook
2017-06-27 21:16       ` Olof Johansson [this message]
2017-06-27 21:36         ` Linus Torvalds
2017-06-27 23:10           ` Serge E. Hallyn
2017-06-28  0:09             ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-06-28  0:14               ` Linus Torvalds
2017-06-28  0:26                 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-06-28  3:54                   ` Stephen Hemminger
     [not found]                 ` <CAFhKne-o0S8fMo_XD_aUk2Rf7VbDhgO+PT_bjnM-9WpKfnWBvw@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                   ` <CAFhKne8FE=17wNdp=Svf2Z2tADok6htfYqTABEiZUrCOyeMaYg@mail.gmail.com>
2017-06-28 13:35                     ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-06-28 17:56                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-06-29 10:02                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-06-28  0:11             ` Linus Torvalds
2017-06-29 10:23           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-06-28 12:58     ` Dan Carpenter
2017-06-30 17:11   ` Steven Rostedt
2017-06-30 17:52   ` Darren Hart
2017-06-30 17:58     ` Darren Hart
2017-07-01 17:24     ` Hannes Reinecke
2017-06-27 20:41 ` Kees Cook
2017-07-06 14:40 ` Dan Carpenter
2017-07-06 14:41   ` [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 1/2] kconfig: add a silent option to conf_write() Dan Carpenter
2017-07-06 15:08     ` Steven Rostedt
2017-07-06 14:42   ` [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 2/2] kconfig: new command line kernel configuration tool Dan Carpenter
2017-07-07  5:55     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2017-07-07  9:02       ` Dan Carpenter
2017-07-09  3:56         ` Linus Walleij
2017-07-09  8:31           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-07-09 17:03             ` Randy Dunlap
2017-07-09 19:43               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-07-09 17:32             ` Frank Rowand
2017-07-10  9:44     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-07-10 11:15       ` Dan Carpenter
2017-07-06 16:41   ` [Ksummit-discuss] [TECH TOPIC] is Kconfig a bit hard sometimes? Linus Torvalds
2017-07-06 17:11     ` Randy Dunlap
2017-07-07 11:36     ` Dan Carpenter
2017-07-10 17:15       ` Luck, Tony
2017-07-10 17:33         ` Alexandre Belloni
2017-07-10 18:28           ` Linus Torvalds
2017-07-10 19:44             ` Randy Dunlap
2017-07-11  6:21             ` Valentin Rothberg
2017-07-06 21:19   ` Laurent Pinchart

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