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Your calm and > understanding approach to figure out what fits best in each case, from "g= o > away, don't bother me with rust" through "I like this, but I have no clue= " > all the way to "uh so we have four drivers now in progress, this is > getting messy" has and continues to enormously help in making this all a > success. > > Thank you! > > Obviously not diminishing everyone else's work here, just that Miguel's > effort on the culture and people impact of r4l stands out to me. Thanks for the kind words Sima, I appreciate them. Others are definitely the ones doing the bulk of the hard technical work (i.e. the safe Rust abstractions). Cheers, Miguel