Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [MAINTAINER TOPIC FOR KS] CoC and Linus position (perhaps undocumented/closed/limited/invite session)

[Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>]

On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 4:34 PM Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch> wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 3:43 PM, Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org> wrote:
> > On Tue, 18 Sep 2018 15:55:23 +1000
> > Dave Airlie <airlied@gmail.com> wrote:
> What suprised me is how quickly this all happened. Back when we've
> done the same CoC for freedesktop.org and all the graphics stuff
> hosted there, there's been years of hallway track preceeding formally
> enacting the CoC. Social expectations on the mailing list already
> reflected the consensus that we expect constructive and respectful
> collaboration, with informal peer driven enforcement when a maintainer
> went a bit over the line. We also had pretty much everyone ack the
> documentation patch before it landed. In other words, nothing changed
> for dri-devel when we've done this ~2 years ago, except the already
> lived expectations have been encoded.
>
> As much as I welcome this as a first step on a fairly long path, it
> does feel rushed since it seems to have happened in just ~10 days.
> From chatting with people, I think this left a lot wondering about
> what's really going on, with interesting conspiracy theories running
> rampant. Personally I have serious worries that to rapid change will
> overwhelm the community's ability to process it, with ugly unintended
> consequences.

Indeed, it feels a bit... rushed.

Commit ddbd2b7ad99a418c ("Code of Conflict") was acked by 66 developers.
Bringing up the analogy with other source tree changes, I would expect a
patch ripping out a substantial piece of code to be CCed to the people that
acked its original introduction. Obviously that's not what happened here.

Disclaimer: the above doesn't say anything about the merits of the new CoC.

Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

                        Geert

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