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[209.85.217.47]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 71dfb90a1353d-54a0d1d7fb3sm225128e0c.7.2025.09.11.05.35.05 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 11 Sep 2025 05:35:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-vs1-f47.google.com with SMTP id ada2fe7eead31-52e6037a484so138874137.0 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2025 05:35:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Forwarded-Encrypted: i=1; AJvYcCX6zzW1dXoCXpH1Oo/O7XNj3XFzXvI0KSXG0MDOGSPDOsp4BFuvfRXvC6HyADzaQI7jlMzOr8Ui@lists.linux.dev X-Received: by 2002:a05:6102:26c6:b0:528:6ec3:307 with SMTP id ada2fe7eead31-53d149b5828mr6035956137.23.1757594105299; Thu, 11 Sep 2025 05:35:05 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: ksummit@lists.linux.dev List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <299e6601-a83e-4e5d-9dd9-12ae796cd913@kernel.org> <20250911122711.GC8177@pendragon.ideasonboard.com> In-Reply-To: <20250911122711.GC8177@pendragon.ideasonboard.com> From: Geert Uytterhoeven Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2025 14:34:53 +0200 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: X-Gm-Features: AS18NWAKk6_SoJeAMP3pfQIIweOeVrGnH0au9psLZVfz6b26vKYtTGqqOf-m8X4 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [MAINTAINERS SUMMIT] Hidden commits from next (aka why maintainers hoard them in backpack) To: Laurent Pinchart Cc: Krzysztof Kozlowski , ksummit@lists.linux.dev Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi Laurent, On Thu, 11 Sept 2025 at 14:27, Laurent Pinchart wrote: > On Thu, Sep 11, 2025 at 01:04:19PM +0200, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote: > Linear histories have upsides, but rebasing causes pain. drm-misc is one > case of linear history with limited pain: with dozens (hundreds ?) of > committers, patches are pushed to drm-misc pretty much right away once > they're approved, and they end up in linux-next. Committers do not hoard > patches in their private trees for weeks or even days before pushing to > drm-misc. The linear history is in this case likely a good compromise: > it simplifies the workflow for committers, while not introducing rebases > down the line (the only rebase operations happen right away when a > committer picks a patch and loses the race with other committers to push > it to drm-misc). And after that, several of them are cherry-picked to a fixes branch... > > Just a friendly note, Laurent, I appreciate your work and I do not want > > to point that you committed it incorrectly. In the contrary - your > > commit is right, but your upstream maintainer stops you from including > > this in linux-next. My aim here is only to discuss and improve the process. > > I would be happy to have my tree included in linux-next. I'm worried > that the fact that the media subsystem cherry-picks my pull requests > instead of merging them would cause issues though. Am I worrying > needlessly, or is that a real issue ? I think you would start receiving "same commit present in multiple trees with different commit IDs"-emails from sfr... Gr{oetje,eeting}s, Geert -- Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that. -- Linus Torvalds