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[209.85.219.174]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 3f1490d57ef6-dff04a8ba45sm559034276.58.2024.06.14.08.08.53 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 14 Jun 2024 08:08:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-yb1-f174.google.com with SMTP id 3f1490d57ef6-dff0067a263so2593348276.0 for ; Fri, 14 Jun 2024 08:08:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Forwarded-Encrypted: i=1; AJvYcCXOfrQa8TvS5czZqtPdJBE+xAY7/ggiRWBlu9RzYv9vGUWksNe2xs3YarK92UKX3AcL7VvqMoOZSM2dqEprlHTH0cwHutObbw== X-Received: by 2002:a25:6609:0:b0:dfd:be95:f305 with SMTP id 3f1490d57ef6-dff15342988mr2805045276.5.1718377733085; Fri, 14 Jun 2024 08:08:53 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: ksummit@lists.linux.dev List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20240613095917.eeplayyfvl6un56y@quack3> <20240613-rustling-chirpy-skua-d7e6cb@meerkat> <87plsjoax6.fsf@mail.lhotse> <20240614-almond-lorikeet-of-reading-6d959f@lemur> In-Reply-To: <20240614-almond-lorikeet-of-reading-6d959f@lemur> From: Geert Uytterhoeven Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2024 17:08:40 +0200 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: [MAINTAINERS SUMMIT] [4/4] Discuss how to better prevent backports of commits that turn out to cause regressions To: Konstantin Ryabitsev Cc: Michael Ellerman , Jan Kara , Thorsten Leemhuis , "ksummit@lists.linux.dev" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Konstantin, On Fri, Jun 14, 2024 at 4:38=E2=80=AFPM Konstantin Ryabitsev wrote: > On Sat, Jun 15, 2024 at 12:29:09AM GMT, Michael Ellerman wrote: > > > 1. disambiguates Link: trailers so they point to relevant online disc= ussions > > > 2. allows tooling like b4, patchwork, etc, to reliably match commits = to > > > submissions for the purposes of better code review automation > > > 3. allows stable and similar projects to better track series grouping= for > > > commits > > > > Message-Id: sucks, I want a link I can open with a single click. > > But why would you want to, on a regular basis? Viewing the series submiss= ion > has got to provide near zero useful info -- if it was accepted into the t= ree, > then at most it would have a couple of stray code review trailers. I open these links regularly (as in daily), for various reasons: - Finding the thread to reply to when reporting a bug, - Checking for new Rb-tags given, - As a starting point for reading earlier submissions of the same patch, - ... Lots of tools (gnome-terminal, mate-terminal, gitk, cgit, ...) support opening URLs in commit logs at the blink of an eye. Having just a Message-Id means more work (yes, I have lore configured as a search engine in my browser). That's also why I detest people putting patchwork URLs instead of lore URLs in the Link:-tag: finding the thread in lore requires one more click on "mailing list archive" (for patchwork.kernel.org) or a copy-'n-paste of the Message-Id (for oh-the-horror patchwork.freedesktop.org; and what if freedesktop.org goes away?) Gr{oetje,eeting}s, Geert --=20 Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k= .org In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. Bu= t when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like t= hat. -- Linus Torvalds