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[209.85.128.182]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 00721157ae682-6e7f7edf574sm1579977b3.106.2024.10.23.02.23.32 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 23 Oct 2024 02:23:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-yw1-f182.google.com with SMTP id 00721157ae682-6e3d7e6f832so63361027b3.0 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 2024 02:23:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Forwarded-Encrypted: i=1; AJvYcCW5e0vg65xUjRpeBxUhrqgmDFuyVm0S+hDhE7EyIfiYlKpki5P3wi7++kX+DnQyyqouylOB6nJK@lists.linux.dev X-Received: by 2002:a05:690c:9a06:b0:6e3:b6c:d114 with SMTP id 00721157ae682-6e7f0fd7dc1mr16599767b3.38.1729675412363; Wed, 23 Oct 2024 02:23:32 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: ksummit@lists.linux.dev List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <792F4759-EA33-48B8-9AD0-FA14FA69E86E@kernel.org> <20241022041243.7f2e53ad@rorschach.local.home> <20241023042004.405056f5@rorschach.local.home> <20241023051914.7f8cf758@rorschach.local.home> In-Reply-To: <20241023051914.7f8cf758@rorschach.local.home> From: Geert Uytterhoeven Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2024 11:23:20 +0200 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: linus-next: improving functional testing for to-be-merged pull requests To: Steven Rostedt Cc: Christoph Hellwig , Kees Cook , Sasha Levin , torvalds@linux-foundation.org, ksummit@lists.linux.dev, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Steven, On Wed, Oct 23, 2024 at 11:19=E2=80=AFAM Steven Rostedt wrote: > On Wed, 23 Oct 2024 10:36:20 +0200 > Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: > > > > To put it this way. The bugs I'm fixing was for code in linux-next > > > where the bugs were never found. They only appeared when they went in= to > > > Linus's tree. So why put the fixes in linux-next, if it didn't catch > > > the bugs I fixed in the first place? > > > > Hmmm... > > > > Your arguments sound very similar to those being used in recent > > discussions about not posting patches for public review... > > > > Please follow the process! ;-) > > What process? > > Note, I probably post everything to mailing lists more than anyone > else (besides stable). All my commits come from mailing lists. Even > things I change myself. I always send out the change to a list. Then I > use patchwork to pull it into my tree. > > After the changes are tested, I send out the patches *again* with my > [for-next] tags in the subject. If it's a fix for Linus, it goes out as > a "[for-linus]" tag. These emails automatically update my patchwork > status. > > No change goes into Linus's tree from me that hasn't been sent out > publicly. All good! > But pushing to linux-next for a day or two, what does that give me? It may catch issues you missed, e.g. compile failures on obscure architectures or configs, e.g. due to indirect includes. Gr{oetje,eeting}s, Geert --=20 Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k= .org In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. Bu= t when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like t= hat. -- Linus Torvalds