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From: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
To: Dan Carpenter <dan.carpenter@oracle.com>
Cc: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
	ksummit@lists.linux.dev,  Julia Lawall <julia.lawall@inria.fr>
Subject: Re: Potential static analysis ideas
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2021 11:50:10 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMuHMdWmAppKge-7_1HAsw2a8XXOOZYDacaXiUFS4Ectnmx+og@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210727093808.GO25548@kadam>

On Tue, Jul 27, 2021 at 11:38 AM Dan Carpenter <dan.carpenter@oracle.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 26, 2021 at 08:50:39AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > On Fri, Jul 23, 2021 at 10:10:23PM +0300, Dan Carpenter wrote:
> > > Rust has many good static analysis features but if we wanted we could
> > > implement a number of stricter rules in C.  With Smatch I have tried to
> > > focus on exclusively on finding bugs because everyone can agree that
> > > bugs are bad.  But if some subsystems wanted to implement stricter rules
> > > just as a hardenning measure then that's a doable thing.
> > >
> > > For example, I've tried a bunch of approaches to warning about when the
> > > user can trigger an integer overflow.  The challenge is that most
> > > integer overflows are harmless and do not cause a real life bug.
> >
> > I would not want overflow checks for unsigned integers, but it might
> > be helpful for signed integers.  But yes, most of us rely on fwrapv,
> > so that kernelwide checks for signed integer overflow will be quite noisy.
>
> Since we use -fwrapv then even signed integer overflows are defined and
> I haven't seen a way that checking for signed integer overflows can be
> useful.

For all people using git grep and investigating: we don't pass -fwrapv
explicitly, it is implied by -fno-strict-overflow.

Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

                        Geert

-- 
Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org

In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But
when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that.
                                -- Linus Torvalds

  reply	other threads:[~2021-07-27  9:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-07-23 19:10 Dan Carpenter
2021-07-24 13:33 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-07-24 13:40   ` Julia Lawall
2021-07-24 14:08   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-24 23:18   ` Laurent Pinchart
2021-07-24 23:45     ` NeilBrown
2021-07-26  7:25       ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-26  7:53         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-07-26  8:20           ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-26  8:39             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-07-26  8:52               ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-26  9:11                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-07-26  8:55             ` Julia Lawall
2021-07-26  9:08               ` Hannes Reinecke
2021-07-26  9:16                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-07-26  9:28                   ` Julia Lawall
2021-07-26  9:35                     ` Hannes Reinecke
2021-07-26 10:03                       ` Julia Lawall
2021-07-26 17:54                   ` James Bottomley
2021-07-26 18:16                     ` Linus Torvalds
2021-07-26 21:53                       ` NeilBrown
2021-07-26 18:31                     ` Laurent Pinchart
2021-07-26  9:17                 ` Dan Carpenter
2021-07-26  9:13             ` Dan Carpenter
2021-07-26 21:43         ` NeilBrown
2021-07-26  7:05   ` Dan Carpenter
2021-07-26 15:50 ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-07-27  9:38   ` Dan Carpenter
2021-07-27  9:50     ` Geert Uytterhoeven [this message]
2021-07-27 16:06     ` Paul E. McKenney

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