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[209.85.128.181]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 3f1490d57ef6-e2bdc96ab58sm1578746276.5.2024.10.23.11.50.21 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 23 Oct 2024 11:50:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-yw1-f181.google.com with SMTP id 00721157ae682-6e3d97b8274so705037b3.1 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 2024 11:50:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Forwarded-Encrypted: i=1; AJvYcCWLSKKp6hzK3o0PNt3JKyR/ANfMw1+ydeBXqt3H2/lAGgY56PXDVMGbkImzogeWHu65tnEdxmn/@lists.linux.dev X-Received: by 2002:a05:690c:3145:b0:6e2:985:f4df with SMTP id 00721157ae682-6e7f0ffc91cmr32597547b3.44.1729709420902; Wed, 23 Oct 2024 11:50:20 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: ksummit@lists.linux.dev List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <792F4759-EA33-48B8-9AD0-FA14FA69E86E@kernel.org> <10b0cb74-2068-4819-ac91-fcf98ca8d96c@paulmck-laptop> <61e62ab7-50d4-40a3-8230-9c5e6814829a@roeck-us.net> In-Reply-To: From: Geert Uytterhoeven Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2024 20:50:08 +0200 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: linus-next: improving functional testing for to-be-merged pull requests To: Linus Torvalds Cc: Guenter Roeck , paulmck@kernel.org, Christoph Hellwig , Sasha Levin , Kees Cook , ksummit@lists.linux.dev, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Linus, On Wed, Oct 23, 2024 at 8:10=E2=80=AFPM Linus Torvalds wrote: > On Wed, 23 Oct 2024 at 11:05, Guenter Roeck wrote: > > And that is a good day. Sometimes dozens of builds and hundreds > > of boot tests fail. Analyzing those failures would be a full-time job. > > Who do you expect would or should do that ? > > Yeah, this is the problem. I think it's only useful if some automation > (not humans! That would make people burn out immediately) can actually > pinpoint the trees that introduced the failures. > > And I think that would be absolutely lovely. But I suspect the testing > requirements then have latencies long enough that getting to that > point might not be entirely realistic. At least for the build failures, zero day does a good job, and does inform the author and appropriate maintainer. Unfortunately maintainers can still ignore any reported issues... Gr{oetje,eeting}s, Geert --=20 Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k= .org In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. Bu= t when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like t= hat. -- Linus Torvalds