Re: [Ksummit-discuss] New CoC and Brendan Eich

[Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>]

On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 10:56 PM Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 4 Oct 2018 21:39:57 +0100
> Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> wrote:
> >       * contributor Alice gets banned from contributing, for whatever reason
> >       * Alice finds a roothole and posts a technically valid fix
> >       * maintainer Bob sees the posting, verifies that the bug is real, that
> > the fix is correct and that the source of that patch is banned.
>
> So, while remedies under the CoC are yet to be determined in any sort of
> detail, I don't believe I have heard anybody talk about banning the
> acceptance of patches from anybody.  Speaking only for myself, I have a
> hard time seeing that happening in the absence of other sorts of concerns

"Maintainers have the right and responsibility [...] to ban temporarily or
 permanently any contributor".

> (the event where a would-be contributor started sending under a sock
> puppet name because nobody would consider his work anymore comes to mind).

That has indeed already happened.

> What *is* common under CoCs in various projects is banning from specific
> fora, such as this mailing list.  But that is a different thing and
> doesn't bring about the scenario described above.

"Maintainers have the right and responsibility to remove [...] commits".
Enjoy the append-only nature of non-rebasing git ;-)

BTW, should we start sending out patches to remedy parts in the CoC that
are not appropriate/suited/wanted for the Linux kernel project?
So far I have seen many suggestions to improve it, but no formal patches
for Documentation/process/code-of-conduct.rst.
I'm afraid it is already causing a chilling effect...

Or is that to be done after a group discussion in e.g. Edinburgh?
Which may bring us _after_ the release of v4.19...

Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

                        Geert

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