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[209.85.219.174]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 00721157ae682-63118e998dasm10084997b3.65.2024.06.16.01.55.05 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 16 Jun 2024 01:55:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-yb1-f174.google.com with SMTP id 3f1490d57ef6-dff0c685292so2937845276.3 for ; Sun, 16 Jun 2024 01:55:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Forwarded-Encrypted: i=1; AJvYcCX/CVXIv3SYHbh8TrxjINuyi175bsMUGQUp6WyRho6EafEIcQyj9dqFrj+QWMxtbOblm9McyH4rz74gzt/tiLCB6xXaM/VL7g== X-Received: by 2002:a25:c7cd:0:b0:dfb:300:9752 with SMTP id 3f1490d57ef6-dff153aef22mr7033850276.23.1718528105528; Sun, 16 Jun 2024 01:55:05 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: ksummit@lists.linux.dev List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20240613095917.eeplayyfvl6un56y@quack3> <20240613-rustling-chirpy-skua-d7e6cb@meerkat> <87plsjoax6.fsf@mail.lhotse> In-Reply-To: From: Geert Uytterhoeven Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2024 10:54:52 +0200 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: [MAINTAINERS SUMMIT] [4/4] Discuss how to better prevent backports of commits that turn out to cause regressions To: Jiri Kosina Cc: Linus Torvalds , Michael Ellerman , "Michael S. Tsirkin" , Paolo Bonzini , Takashi Iwai , Konstantin Ryabitsev , Jan Kara , Thorsten Leemhuis , "ksummit@lists.linux.dev" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Jiri, On Sun, Jun 16, 2024 at 10:32=E2=80=AFAM Jiri Kosina wro= te: > On Sat, 15 Jun 2024, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > There is no excuse for that completely broken model. It's objectively > > and unquestionably worse than having a "link". > > I think the 'philosophy' behind favoring Message-id over Link is that > Message-id is set in stone forever, while Link is not. > > Should lore go away at some point in the future, something else will > probably take over, and you'll be able to search for Message-id there, bu= t > the Link will not be functional any more (sure, you can extract the > Message-id: from it manually). The premise is that kernel.org won't go away. And if it ever goes away, we map it to its replacement in our local /etc/dnsmasq.conf ;-) Gr{oetje,eeting}s, Geert --=20 Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k= .org In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. Bu= t when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like t= hat. -- Linus Torvalds