From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3A998A8 for ; Thu, 22 May 2014 20:56:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ig0-f176.google.com (mail-ig0-f176.google.com [209.85.213.176]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 60BA520354 for ; Thu, 22 May 2014 20:56:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ig0-f176.google.com with SMTP id hl10so8152703igb.3 for ; Thu, 22 May 2014 13:56:17 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: geert.uytterhoeven@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <20140522203103.GM15585@mwanda> References: <20140521201108.76ab84af@notabene.brown> <2980546.hqgiQV7seV@vostro.rjw.lan> <20140522154859.GA28971@thunk.org> <20140522203103.GM15585@mwanda> Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 22:56:17 +0200 Message-ID: From: Geert Uytterhoeven To: Dan Carpenter Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [CORE TOPIC] [nomination] Move Fast and Oops Things List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 10:31 PM, Dan Carpenter wrote: > On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 09:31:44AM -0700, Dan Williams wrote: >> I agree that something like this is prickly once it gets entangled >> with ABI concerns. But, I disagree with the speed argument... unless >> you believe -staging has not increased the velocity of kernel >> development? > > Staging is good because it brings more developers, but in many cases it > is a slow down. Merged codes has stricter rules where you have to write > reviewable patches. If there is a bug early in a patch series then you > can't just fix it in a later patch, you need to redo the whole series. In theory... These days many fixes end up as separate commits in various subsystem trees, due to "no rebase" rules and other regulations. Gr{oetje,eeting}s, Geert -- Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that. -- Linus Torvalds