From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mail-qv1-f47.google.com (mail-qv1-f47.google.com [209.85.219.47]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 30FF317D2 for ; Thu, 11 Aug 2022 08:36:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qv1-f47.google.com with SMTP id h8so12843315qvs.6 for ; Thu, 11 Aug 2022 01:36:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc; bh=z7TfZDREQMkXm9DVTrJ0VferWrr7wPbP39GAsf81coc=; b=T1/Yv1iSxDa5ztNjJJ9DrSi6qjNyD6HVxhiEl/UerPsngPfe2AvvAPCe9fykOsbXsm /BhC+fCY3bZ5KTvXnTzrPX79cYpcadNf7Iyz2BrcbFuqWt1jnDyqYRIRfPxts1fLF4Pq 9dsqFePIBhffLDXwfKJ3CuIjEEdx/MorW5AqFCaXAnLxkScj1/E4Wi5nEozJdzdgg88g 3LcnKLmQsVVs9lzYK1pkG2ipEoxiodEQhbxeo0fHI2W3BONVOWTAscYtXFYqxfUYhG4j OPonm9OnW/KK6w/mD/hJ51lLcYtK09FhcCnjJityqNYKAexjmkjxreOyo6bpLr2J+qLM f+Cw== X-Gm-Message-State: ACgBeo3yvf5vHUkRIMTzKxCRWv9lSgN5w4GYmdf5QLvvvmyGuD507sQU oFCBRLxm/C1lqIg1PBGLP9giE14UxBq8PUqv X-Google-Smtp-Source: AA6agR5yTLei5PD5GsNGzsX6elTC1WaRgJxZtppl1Yh0jg1CfQsNTA+0liGz6davaIQE4UGQagZyxQ== X-Received: by 2002:a05:6214:c6c:b0:476:99a4:26b9 with SMTP id t12-20020a0562140c6c00b0047699a426b9mr27092848qvj.128.1660206965911; Thu, 11 Aug 2022 01:36:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-yw1-f180.google.com (mail-yw1-f180.google.com. [209.85.128.180]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id cj20-20020a05622a259400b00339b8a5639csm1281007qtb.95.2022.08.11.01.36.04 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 11 Aug 2022 01:36:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-yw1-f180.google.com with SMTP id 00721157ae682-32194238c77so166236187b3.4 for ; Thu, 11 Aug 2022 01:36:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:a81:13c2:0:b0:31f:3dc8:e01 with SMTP id 185-20020a8113c2000000b0031f3dc80e01mr31514987ywt.316.1660206964466; Thu, 11 Aug 2022 01:36:04 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: ksummit@lists.linux.dev List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20220809171316.1d6ce319@hermes.local> <20220810082640.GK3438@kadam> <20220810120450.GT3460@kadam> In-Reply-To: From: Geert Uytterhoeven Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2022 10:35:52 +0200 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: Validating MAINTAINERS entries? To: Mark Brown Cc: Dan Carpenter , Lee Jones , Lukas Bulwahn , Greg KH , Stephen Hemminger , ksummit@lists.linux.dev, Lee Jones Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Wed, Aug 10, 2022 at 2:50 PM Mark Brown wrote: > On Wed, Aug 10, 2022 at 03:04:50PM +0300, Dan Carpenter wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 10, 2022 at 12:50:50PM +0100, Lee Jones wrote: > > > I am presently plagued with reviews for lots of files that I've > > > touched over the years. Even if the changes were trivial. > > > > Or is this just an education point? > > > Education is not the answer. > > > We've got thousands of devs and no one can keep track of everyone and > > their motives. > > I think the issue there is more that if someone sent a drive by patch to > some driver they'll start showing up in the git history and often get > CCed on future changes going forwards, which can then result in getting > copied into further postings done by copying from prior postings. That > does feel somewhat tractable to education, at least in the early stages. And for drive-by changes to Kconfig files or Makefiles, it is amplified to any other sections in these files :-( Perhaps scripts/get_maintainer.pl can be taught to only consider the subsystem maintainer, and ignore git history, for changes to Makefiles and Kconfig files? Or move the Kconfig/Makefile bits into the driver sources, next to the MODULE_*() bits, which I believe was part of Roman Zippel's big plan when he wrote the new Kconfig system... Gr{oetje,eeting}s, Geert -- Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that. -- Linus Torvalds