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From: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
To: Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>
Cc: ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [MAINTAINERS SUMMIT] API replacement/deprecation
Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2018 10:15:01 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMuHMdUkqSfhUqgzkxPwG6jAofLrsuwvTZdWk_trmP5_jrWDCA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180907205607.GZ5098@thunk.org>

Hi Ted,

On Fri, Sep 7, 2018 at 10:56 PM Theodore Y. Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu> wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 07, 2018 at 10:30:04PM +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > I suspect that a lot of the cases that want NUL-padding also don't
> > want NUL-termination: when you store a string on disk in a fixed-length
> > record or transfer it over the network, you don't want to leak stack
> > data to the medium, but you also don't need the terminating character
> > because you know the maximum length already.
> >
> > strncpy() does exactly the right thing for that case, it's just that
> > this pattern is now a corner case, and gcc tends to flag such
> > usage with a warning about missing termination (unless you
> > use __nonstring) but doesn't flag the more common usage when
> > it looks correct.
>
> Yeah, the case I have is when I'm copying from a NUL-terminated string
> into a fixed char array.  So if we had a function called
> "copy_string_to_char_array" (we'll figure out a better name later)
> which takes a source, destination, and size parameter, and which does
> the functional equivalent of:
>
>         memset(dest, 0, size);

Why the memset()? strncpy() pads the destination with zeroes, so it
is not needed. This is basically the major reason to use strncpy().

>         strncpy(src, dest, size);

Oh, you're copying in the wrong direction ;-)

> ... we could do something that's more efficient than the above, and
> does exactly what I'm looking for in this case.
>
> Of course, there could be other corner cases where strncpy() is
> justified; this is just the use case I care about.  :-)

Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

                        Geert

-- 
Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org

In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But
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  reply	other threads:[~2018-09-08  8:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-09-05 22:57 Kees Cook
2018-09-05 23:41 ` Stephen Rothwell
2018-09-06  2:24   ` Steven Rostedt
2018-09-06  6:12     ` Julia Lawall
2018-09-06 18:24     ` Kees Cook
2018-09-06 23:18       ` Stephen Rothwell
2018-09-06 23:24         ` Kees Cook
2018-09-07  7:03           ` Takashi Iwai
2018-09-07  7:20             ` Johannes Berg
2018-09-07  7:31               ` Takashi Iwai
2018-09-07  9:42               ` Julia Lawall
2018-09-07  8:04             ` Jani Nikula
2018-09-07  9:38               ` Julia Lawall
2018-09-07  9:54                 ` Jani Nikula
2018-09-07 10:05                   ` Julia Lawall
2018-09-07 10:43                     ` Jani Nikula
2018-09-07 10:25                   ` Alexandre Belloni
2018-09-07 11:44                     ` Mark Brown
2018-09-10 12:51                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-09-11  8:10                     ` Jani Nikula
2018-09-11  9:34                       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-09-11 11:08                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-09-07  8:19           ` Jan Kara
2018-09-07 14:33           ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-09-07 16:10             ` Kees Cook
2018-09-07 20:30               ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-09-07 20:56                 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-09-08  8:15                   ` Geert Uytterhoeven [this message]
2018-09-08 15:19                     ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-09-10 12:28           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-09-10 16:09             ` Kees Cook
2018-09-07 10:14         ` Dan Carpenter
2018-09-07 10:40         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-09-07  8:40       ` Maxime Ripard
2018-09-06  4:44 ` Julia Lawall
2018-09-06 10:04 ` Linus Walleij
2018-09-06 10:11 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-09-06 14:59   ` Kees Cook
2018-09-06 15:06     ` Geert Uytterhoeven

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