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[209.85.222.44]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 71dfb90a1353d-53b2bddd926sm4142935e0c.14.2025.08.22.00.55.42 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 22 Aug 2025 00:55:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ua1-f44.google.com with SMTP id a1e0cc1a2514c-8921eb4befaso306045241.2 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2025 00:55:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Forwarded-Encrypted: i=1; AJvYcCUlJEA+asbrrKLUoRAkWkhFb2TaZDMC/JN37MZWY4IeeGJ/vghylTT5dTdOHrgnOzti/nuOwxQ5@lists.linux.dev X-Received: by 2002:a05:6102:4a83:b0:4fb:dd65:b97f with SMTP id ada2fe7eead31-51d0f2f9a12mr564332137.23.1755849342283; Fri, 22 Aug 2025 00:55:42 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: ksummit@lists.linux.dev List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1npn33nq-713r-r502-p5op-q627pn5555oo@fhfr.pbz> <12ded49d-daa4-4199-927e-ce844f4cfe67@kernel.org> <9020e75d-361f-457f-9def-330d8964f431@paulmck-laptop> <20250818230729.106a8c48@foz.lan> <9383F8DB-CD38-40CC-B91D-7F98E8156C04@HansenPartnership.com> <4tacplepoih3wvejopmtkdg7ujtvwmufd5teiozk5im2jikn7a@jdbou6kwindl> <20250821122329.03c77178@foz.lan> <20250821125037.5cf5be3d@gandalf.local.home> <20250821193041.398ed30b@foz.lan> In-Reply-To: <20250821193041.398ed30b@foz.lan> From: Geert Uytterhoeven Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2025 09:55:30 +0200 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: X-Gm-Features: Ac12FXytzpGY2Z_FqpxVfnkQkeHVSF0C3K6Crx-rlkbYrFVcmnU3UK2vIwDQx2c Message-ID: Subject: Re: [MAINTAINERS SUMMIT] Annotating patches containing AI-assisted code To: Mauro Carvalho Chehab Cc: Steven Rostedt , "Paul E. McKenney" , James Bottomley , Jiri Kosina , ksummit@lists.linux.dev Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi Mauro, On Thu, 21 Aug 2025 at 19:32, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: > Em Thu, 21 Aug 2025 12:50:37 -0400 > Steven Rostedt escreveu: > > On Thu, 21 Aug 2025 12:23:29 +0200 > > Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: > > > > Many of the AI players scrape the web, and might well pull in training > > > > data from web pages having a restrictive copyright. The AI's output > > > > might then be influenced by that restricted training data. > > > > > > True, but this is not different than a developer seeking the web for > > > answers of his development problems, reading textbooks and/or reading > > > articles. > > > > The difference I believe is that AI is still a computer program. It could, > > in theory, copy something exactly as is, where copyright does matter. > > > > If you read something and was able to rewrite it verbatim, you would be > > subject to copyright infringement if what you read had limits on how you > > could reproduce it. > > Maybe at the early days of LLM this could be true, but now that they're > massively trained by bots, the number of places it retrieves data for > its training is very large, and considering how artificial neurons > work, they will only store patterns with a high number of repetitions. How does it know which are reputable sources, and which are garbage? Gr{oetje,eeting}s, Geert -- Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that. -- Linus Torvalds