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From: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
To: John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>
Cc: "ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org"
	<ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [CORE TOPIC] Dealing with 2038
Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 12:23:04 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALCETrWDH1FkkZAtJ3d2NnPRccS2=yCFpMO-GsworhV+uhs6YA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5367D989.1000504@linaro.org>

On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 11:33 AM, John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org> wrote:
> I'd like to discuss some thoughts on how to address the 2038 issues on
> 32bit architectures. This is important, as vendors are still producing
> lots of 32bit hardware, which may very well have 24+ year lifespans
> (think industrial control applications, security systems).  NetBSD and
> OpenBSD have recently broken their ABI, converted their time_t to long
> long, to properly address this. So I'd like to discuss thoughts on how
> Linux can do similar despite our no-breaking-userspace rules, after all,
> one way or another (almost) all of Linux's 32bit architectures are
> terminally broken past 2038.
>
> Thomas (who I don't think can attend due to other plans) and I have had
> some small talks about this and we have different initial preferences on
> how to go about solving things, so I'd like to present the pros and cons
> of the current options we're stewing on, open the discussion up to other
> ideas, and see if there's a consensus on which way to go.

I'm interested in this discussion.

It would be nice to try to do something about the seconds, nanoseconds
representation in clock_gettime at the same time.  One way or another,
a lot of programs will continue to expect to see seconds and
nanoseconds, but it's simpler and faster to be able to feed userspace
a nanosecond count.

Also, leap seconds :(

--Andy

  reply	other threads:[~2014-05-05 19:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-05-05 18:33 John Stultz
2014-05-05 19:23 ` Andy Lutomirski [this message]
2014-05-05 20:53 ` josh
2014-05-05 23:20   ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-05-06  2:12   ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-05-06  2:21     ` Josh Triplett
2014-05-06 12:57       ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-05-06 17:53         ` John Stultz
2014-05-06 18:20           ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-06 20:19             ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-05-06 20:33               ` josh
2014-05-06 20:50                 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-05-06 22:06                   ` John Stultz
2014-05-07  2:07                     ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-05-07 11:19                       ` Jonathan Corbet
2014-05-07 17:28                       ` John Stultz
2014-05-09 15:05                         ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-05-08 20:37                       ` Ben Hutchings
2014-05-09 15:10                         ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-05-09 20:39                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-09 22:33                             ` Josh Triplett
2014-05-10  0:16                               ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-05-10  1:44                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-15 12:18                                 ` Grant Likely
2014-05-15 17:20                                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-05-16  2:50                                     ` Jason Cooper
2014-05-10  0:19                               ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-05-06 21:17               ` Daniel Phillips
2014-05-06 21:56                 ` Luck, Tony
2014-05-07  1:56                   ` Daniel Phillips
2014-05-07 14:00         ` Grant Likely
2014-05-09 17:30       ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-05-06  1:25 ` Li Zefan

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