From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 605888D9 for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2015 22:45:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-oi0-f54.google.com (mail-oi0-f54.google.com [209.85.218.54]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D23451FC for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2015 22:45:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by oiev193 with SMTP id v193so17310914oie.3 for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2015 15:45:57 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <13213.1439419198@warthog.procyon.org.uk> References: <20436.1438090619@warthog.procyon.org.uk> <1438096213.5441.147.camel@HansenPartnership.com> <1438097471.5441.152.camel@HansenPartnership.com> <1438099839.5441.165.camel@HansenPartnership.com> <1438100102.26913.183.camel@infradead.org> <30361.1438101879@warthog.procyon.org.uk> <1438111168.26913.189.camel@infradead.org> <1438121016.5441.233.camel@HansenPartnership.com> <16035.1439324695@warthog.procyon.org.uk> <11239.1439403720@warthog.procyon.org.uk> <13213.1439419198@warthog.procyon.org.uk> From: Andy Lutomirski Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 15:45:37 -0700 Message-ID: To: David Howells Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: James Bottomley , Luis Rodriguez , "ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org" , Kyle McMartin Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [TECH TOPIC] Firmware signing List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 3:39 PM, David Howells wrote: > Andy Lutomirski wrote: > >> 1.5K? I'm talking about an actual raw public key, which is 65 bytes >> or less in reasonable implementations. (64 or 65 bytes for P-256 >> depending on encoding and 32 bytes for compressed schemes like EdDSA.) > > Various bodies that define security criteria with which one must comply to be > able to supply software mandate key lengths of at least 2048 bits - that is > min 256 bytes. > Really? Doesn't even FIPS prefer ECDSA on P-256 these days? Your employer has decided that the patent situation is acceptable. :) Any standards body that says "minimum key length of 2048 bits" as opposed to "minimum RSA or DSA key length of 2048 bits" with separate criteria for EC groups is just nuts. > But yes, we could even take a raw public key and just fill in a public_key > structure for it and then use it. I prefer that over certificates. Smaller and simpler. --Andy