From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4F743B9E for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2017 22:20:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wr0-f194.google.com (mail-wr0-f194.google.com [209.85.128.194]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BA160483 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2017 22:19:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wr0-f194.google.com with SMTP id y9so14135418wrb.2 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2017 15:19:59 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20171030220652.mintguegkoln4vgz@thunk.org> References: <20171029101257.wgujjxh7ert3lxl2@thunk.org> <5a569d45-ef78-3ab6-1926-2359ffb2ddb9@redhat.com> <20171030194130.mzkd6zvxuxoumx6k@thunk.org> <20171030220652.mintguegkoln4vgz@thunk.org> From: Shuah Khan Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2017 16:19:57 -0600 Message-ID: To: "Theodore Ts'o" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Cc: ksummit Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] Kernel Summit 2017 Feedback Thread List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 4:06 PM, Theodore Ts'o wrote: > On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 09:09:10PM +0100, Arnd Bergmann wrote: >> >> I think a lot of people were simply unaware of the new format and >> how to use it. I heard from multiple people that were at the kernel >> summit that they only learned on the same day that they would be >> allowed to participate. I'm sure others didn't get the message at all >> and just didn't show up, either to the entire event or the kernel summit >> sessions. > > It was announced several months ago on the ksummit-discuss list when > we sent out the call for Maintainer's Summit and Kernel Summit topics. > There was also a note in the Kernel Summit Agenda sent out the week > beforehand that the it was open to anyone with a Maintainer Summit or > OSS Europe badge[1]) to the LKML list. > > I thought about cc'ing that note to LKML, but I decided against it on > the theory it would be spamming LKML, and figured everyone who might > be interested was on ksummit-discuss anyway. Also, this was a > continuation of the Kernel Summit "Open Day", where the technical > track was open to all attendees of the colocated conference (e.g., > Plumbers in Santa Fe, Linux Con Korea in Seoul, etc.) in previous > years. > > Clearly, I had forgotten the key e-mail marketing dictum that there is > no such thing as over-communicating (at least until you get dropped > into people's SPAM filters :-). > The smaller group worked well for the regression tracking, and maintainer discussions. However one thing that was missing was the lightening talks. These stemmed from a larger group interaction. If we can find a way to get them into the current format, that would be awesome. Maybe we can add a session to Kernel summit or make that part of unconference track. Even so, it is important to have the right mix of people. We just got that by default with the older format. I am interested in summary for the session especially the discussion around working across sub-systems Kees brought up. It would be good to send a summary for the entire session. Anybody taking notes, I was busy listening and talking :) thanks, -- Shuah