ksummit.lists.linux.dev archive mirror
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Shuah Khan <shuahkhan@gmail.com>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Cc: "ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org"
	<ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [CORE TOPIC] Reviewing new API/ABI
Date: Tue, 6 May 2014 13:37:48 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKocOOMH2FFVN4JhpqfZuAMSpOC7CEPLunAJ42i43=aOvbXN4w@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrVB=w1XzYfnugAEvPO2uTKChTDNvJrXN_-92LZ61bBAww@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> wrote:
> On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 12:12 PM, Shuah Khan <shuahkhan@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 11:58 AM,  <josh@joshtriplett.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm interested in this topic, and I'll second that nomination.  I'd
>>> like to partipate in this discussion.
>>>
>>> We need to have better processes for vetting new syscalls and ABIs far
>>> more carefully than we currently do.  Right now, we require benchmarks
>>> for any claimed performance increase; it's almost a given that if you
>>> post an optimization without including benchmarks in the commit message,
>>> it'll get rejected with a request to come back with numbers.  We need
>>> similar standards for new syscalls or other userspace ABIs: come back
>>> with test programs, test coverage information, etc.
>>>
>>
>> I am interested in this topic as well. To be effective and keep the
>> momentum going long term , we will need a way to regression test when
>> new APIs, new syscalls and ABIs are introduced. That would require a
>> look at existing tests and look into putting in some kind of framework
>> to easily test for regressions. It would also mean, when new API, ABIs
>> get added, "strongly" encourage developers add documentation and tests
>> cases.
>
> I think there was some discussion about in-tree kernel tests.  This
> might fit in.
>

I am proposing adding regression test angle to this discussion. Review
is a good first step, however to ensure breakages don't occur, we have
to go one step further.

-- Shuah

  reply	other threads:[~2014-05-06 19:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-05-06 17:45 Andy Lutomirski
2014-05-06 17:58 ` josh
2014-05-06 19:12   ` Shuah Khan
2014-05-06 19:16     ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-05-06 19:37       ` Shuah Khan [this message]
2014-05-06 19:21   ` Johannes Berg
2014-05-06 19:43     ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-05-06 19:48       ` Johannes Berg
2014-05-06 19:51         ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-05-06 19:45     ` josh
2014-05-06 20:10     ` Daniel Vetter
2014-05-06 20:13       ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-05-07 10:12     ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-05-07 12:36       ` Daniel Vetter
2014-05-07 13:30         ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-05-07 13:50           ` Hans Verkuil
2014-05-12 14:15         ` Wolfram Sang
2014-05-07 17:48   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-05-06 19:00 ` Greg KH
2014-05-06 20:07   ` Steven Rostedt
2014-05-06 20:34     ` Josh Triplett
2014-05-06 20:42       ` Steven Rostedt
2014-05-06 21:00         ` josh
2014-05-07 11:48       ` Jiri Kosina
2014-05-08  6:35         ` Li Zefan
2014-05-12  6:37           ` Jiri Kosina
2014-05-07  6:27   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-05-06 19:57 ` Dan Carpenter
2014-05-08 18:15   ` Randy Dunlap
2014-05-09 11:33 ` Jeff Layton
2014-05-09 11:50   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to='CAKocOOMH2FFVN4JhpqfZuAMSpOC7CEPLunAJ42i43=aOvbXN4w@mail.gmail.com' \
    --to=shuahkhan@gmail.com \
    --cc=ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org \
    --cc=luto@amacapital.net \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox