From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A861F1179 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 18:22:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-lj1-f175.google.com (mail-lj1-f175.google.com [209.85.208.175]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 157D17E2 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 18:22:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-lj1-f175.google.com with SMTP id q127-v6so2641486ljq.11 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 11:22:28 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <2072478.UYspZ1xLTN@avalon> <20180917115916.37fd5388@coco.lan> <5b434160-07d9-4071-ac77-9d64ea69c980@email.android.com> <1537269419.3424.1.camel@HansenPartnership.com> <20180918165917.GA9728@chatter> <20180918173148.GB9728@chatter> <20180918174913.GA22988@kroah.com> In-Reply-To: <20180918174913.GA22988@kroah.com> From: Dmitry Torokhov Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 11:22:15 -0700 Message-ID: To: Greg Kroah-Hartman Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Cc: James Bottomley , Mauro Carvalho Chehab , Tim.Bird@sony.com, ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [MAINTAINER SUMMIT] community management/subsystem governance List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 10:49 AM Greg KH wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 01:31:48PM -0400, Konstantin Ryabitsev wrote: > > So, what if we imagine that there's an imaginary web tool that does this: > > > > 1. Allows people to generate an account > > 2. Verifies their email address > > 3. Instructs people how to generate a patch or series of patches > > 4. Gives a way to upload generated patches > > 5. Runs checkpatch to make sure there are no errors > > 6. Runs get_maintainer to find out where the patch(es) should be sent to > > 7. (Does more imaginary magic, such as looking up message-id references) > > 8. Mails it out > > That last step might be hard, you have to "mail it out" to look like it > came from the original author, right? Then all crud breaks out as you > can't deliver an email from "sony.com" successfully. > > So you just provide them with a FOO1234@k.o account or some such > munging, to reflect back to their original email address, but what > happens when I ask for a change? Are you now a "man in the middle" > forwarding emails around everywhere? That could get messy quickly. > > It's that feedback loop where things break down. I only accept on > average, 1/3 of the patches sent to me, so retrys are a part of life, as > is a conversation about what went wrong to deserve a retry. > > If you can incorporate that, great, we just invented gerrit! :) > > Seriously, it would be good, but no gerrit please... Seconded. I swear 75% of time I spend on patch reviews that I do for Chrome OS is spent on clicking around UI, not actually commenting on the issues I find. Thanks. -- Dmitry