From: Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>
Cc: "Brown, Len" <len.brown@intel.com>,
"ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org"
<ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org>,
Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
Kristen Carlson Accardi <kristen@linux.intel.com>,
Grant Likely <grant.likely@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [TECH TOPIC] System-wide interface to specify the level of PM tuning
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2015 18:51:31 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKMK7uHfcwLe-HWz72LJDhe-HvKTBu65DaJmR3tW3TOze4uyVQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1455994.zAMIqEIJx2@vostro.rjw.lan>
On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 1:07 AM, Rafael J. Wysocki <rjw@rjwysocki.net> wrote:
> However, there are places in the kernel where there is a real tradeoff between
> power and performance (or power and capacity in general) and there are places
> that tend to keep conservative settings for fear of exposing latent bugs to
> a wide community of users.
>
> Those might benefit from allowing the users to relax the settings globally
> if they want to.
Well that's the approach I don't like personally. Essentially we
should be the experts on what works and what doesn't. But then kernel
developers chicken out and dump this problem onto users, which happily
enable all kinds of options they hear about. And then when it eats
their data or crashes machines everyone shrugs and says "oh well you
probably have one of the broken machines, don't enable this" and moves
on.
There's certainly the case that some tuning stuff in core kernel has
real downsides to either perf or power, but generally (for device
drivers) I feel like simply not enabling the all the power features is
a cheap way to chicken out of bugs reports and responsibility. I'm
somewhat opionated on this ;-)
-Daniel
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Daniel Vetter
Software Engineer, Intel Corporation
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-07-14 16:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-07-06 0:22 Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-07-06 1:21 ` Josh Triplett
2015-07-06 14:04 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-07-06 1:40 ` NeilBrown
2015-07-06 14:12 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-07-06 13:49 ` Iyer, Sundar
2015-07-06 14:21 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-07-07 7:53 ` Jiri Kosina
2015-07-07 12:33 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-07-10 17:25 ` Kevin Hilman
2015-07-12 10:01 ` Daniel Vetter
2015-07-13 23:07 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-07-14 16:51 ` Daniel Vetter [this message]
2015-07-15 22:44 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-07-16 1:10 ` Josh Triplett
2015-07-16 9:19 ` David Woodhouse
2015-07-16 15:44 ` Kristen Accardi
2015-07-16 15:53 ` Josh Triplett
2015-07-16 15:58 ` Greg KH
2015-07-17 10:34 ` Takashi Iwai
2015-07-17 11:41 ` Daniel Vetter
2015-07-20 22:21 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-07-20 23:09 ` Daniel Vetter
2015-07-22 1:12 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-07-22 7:18 ` Daniel Vetter
2015-07-22 17:25 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-07-22 18:25 ` josh
2015-07-24 22:36 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-07-25 19:50 ` Josh Triplett
2015-07-26 0:03 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-07-26 0:16 ` Josh Triplett
2015-07-27 13:30 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-07-27 11:50 ` Jani Nikula
2015-07-06 16:33 ` Kristen Accardi
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