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From: Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch>
To: Olof Johansson <olof@lixom.net>
Cc: Grant Likely <grant.likely@linaro.org>,
	Dave Airlie <airlied@linux.ie>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Nikula, Jani" <jani.nikula@linux.intel.com>,
	"ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org"
	<ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [CORE TOPIC] (group) maintainership models
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2016 15:03:29 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKMK7uH31nB0=-ZBOCzamOkAozrLgsFz4ZtBkeumhgrmnu2bkw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOesGMiq5Q==Rg97VqmO-=HNYXz9ZA6iCDJ7sBa0tGzJVuYs4g@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 6:45 PM, Olof Johansson <olof@lixom.net> wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 5:11 AM, Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch> wrote:
>> In my very first KS I found the maintainership model presentations
>> (x86-tip & armsoc) rather interesting. And last year we've had an
>> ad-hoc discussion about group maintainership again. I think drm&i915
>> would be an interesting case since over the past year I've done some
>> changes which are at the edge of what's common in the kernel, and it
>> seems to work (at least for us) fairly well. I discussed this a bit
>> with a few folks at ELC San Diego too.
>>
>> Short summary: i915 has now a two-level maintenance model with 2
>> maintainers (who take the blame) and 15 people who can push patches.
>> In a way a rather big group, but not so big that people don't all know
>> each another any more personally. We have some detailed docs about the
>> patch flow and expectations:
>>
>> https://01.org/linuxgraphics/gfx-docs/maintainer-tools/drm-intel.html
>>
>> and about the dim tool used to support this all
>>
>> https://01.org/linuxgraphics/gfx-docs/maintainer-tools/dim.html
>>
>> But I think the more interesting bits are why I decided to try this
>> out, what I hoped would happen, what I feared might happen. And with 1
>> year of experience, what actually happens and what I think is needed
>> to make this work and an actual benefit over more traditional
>> maintainer models. And of course I'd like to compare notes with other
>> group maintainers.
>
> Very interested in participating here, for obvious reasons -- learning
> from others how we can do things even better as well as sharing how
> things are working for us, 5 years into the endeavor.
>
> One thing we're low on for arm-soc is tooling, I know the x86 guys
> have quite a bit more than we do in this area, so ideas on what we can
> do to make our own lives easier is valuable.

drm group maintainer tooling is fairly low-key. The one interesting
bit is that the overall integration tree is regenerated every time you
push a patch (to scale out conflict resolution to committers too).
Conflict resolutions are tracked using git rerere and optional manual
fixup patches in a shared branch. There's also a setup command to get
it all started. I think that's probably the most interesting part of
our tooling.

One thing that's kinda annoying is how bad git rerere is at reapplying
stored resolutions with slightly changed context, or when merging the
other way round. But it's not yet bad enough that I've sat down and
fixed it ;-)
-Daniel
-- 
Daniel Vetter
Software Engineer, Intel Corporation
+41 (0) 79 365 57 48 - http://blog.ffwll.ch

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-07-27 13:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-07-20 12:11 Daniel Vetter
2016-07-22 20:02 ` Darren Hart
2016-07-25  5:57   ` Daniel Vetter
2016-07-26 16:22     ` Darren Hart
2016-07-28 22:13       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2016-07-26 16:45 ` Olof Johansson
2016-07-27  3:04   ` Vinod Koul
2016-07-27  5:34     ` Wolfram Sang
2016-07-27  7:53     ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-07-27 12:57       ` Vinod Koul
2016-07-27 14:22         ` Mark Brown
2016-07-27 17:15           ` Vinod Koul
2016-07-28  8:44             ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-07-28 23:48               ` Alexandre Belloni
2016-07-29  0:06                 ` Stephen Rothwell
2016-07-31 17:57               ` Vinod Koul
2016-08-01  6:56                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-08-01  7:36                   ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-08-01 14:10                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-08-02  4:46                       ` Vinod Koul
2016-08-02  6:48                         ` Peter Ujfalusi
2016-08-02  7:27                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-08-02  8:29                             ` Peter Ujfalusi
2016-08-02  8:33                           ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-08-02  9:49                             ` Tony Lindgren
2016-08-02  8:41                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-08-02  9:21                             ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-08-02  9:27                               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-09-02 10:46                   ` Vinod Koul
2016-09-02 17:25                     ` Linus Torvalds
2016-09-02 20:06                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-09-02 20:26                         ` Linus Torvalds
2016-09-02 20:43                           ` Julia Lawall
2016-09-02 20:50                             ` Linus Torvalds
2016-09-02 22:16                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-09-03 14:02                           ` Michael Ellerman
2016-09-02 23:35                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-09-04 17:45                       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-09-04 17:59                         ` Linus Torvalds
2016-09-03  0:07                     ` Mark Brown
2016-07-27 12:59     ` Daniel Vetter
2016-07-27 13:03   ` Daniel Vetter [this message]
2016-08-01 14:42 ` Jani Nikula
2016-09-07  5:03 Leon Romanovsky

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