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From: Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch>
To: Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky.work@gmail.com>,
	Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz <b.zolnierkie@samsung.com>,
	Linux Fbdev development list <linux-fbdev@vger.kernel.org>
Cc: "ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org"
	<ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [TECH TOPIC] printk redesign
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2017 15:48:34 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKMK7uGWBFJ70KPexoyyYiWMOkKTga5KEO5zPtN70pRHBV90cQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKMK7uGR_Zn1eW9znd_HNF1VS5ELmrrZwXBwmkpaAzB=F_qG3A@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 3:42 PM, Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch> wrote:
> Tears pretty much guaranteed, and after a few hacks from Alan&me I
> concluded that the only way to fix this is to at least partially
> rewrite fbdev (a dead subsystem, so no one's volunteering), with the
> risk that you get to revert it all because someone is indeed relying
> on that super-flexible module loading order sequence. The simplest fix
> would probably be to make the entire fbdev->fbcon setup depency a
> hard-coded function call, or maybe at most a one-shot symbol_get
> attempt.

I did once hash out a plan how to fix this with the least amount of pain:

1. Merge a patch to build the fbcon support into the overall fb.ko
module, so that the dynamic loading nonsense is essentially disabled,
and fbcon becomes a Kconfig/compile-time only option, no longer a
runtime-selectable thing.

2. Wait 1 year and pray that no one reports a regression. If you're
unlucky, try to fence them of with a runtime option to disable fbcon.

3. Rip out the notifier nonsense and replace it by direct function
calls. You can only do that once 1. won't be reverted anymore.

4. Push the console_lock donw the callchains until it's again at the
right spots, auditing all the other stuff meanwhile to make sure the
locking is still correct.

5. Apply your patch to make console_lock sane.

Adding fbdev maintainers and lists just.
-Daniel
-- 
Daniel Vetter
Software Engineer, Intel Corporation
+41 (0) 79 365 57 48 - http://blog.ffwll.ch

  reply	other threads:[~2017-06-22 13:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-06-19  5:21 Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-19  6:22 ` Hannes Reinecke
2017-06-19 14:39   ` Steven Rostedt
2017-06-19 15:20     ` Andrew Lunn
2017-06-19 15:54       ` Hannes Reinecke
2017-06-19 16:17         ` Andrew Lunn
2017-06-19 16:23         ` Mark Brown
2017-06-20 15:58           ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-20 16:44             ` Luck, Tony
2017-06-20 17:11               ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-20 17:27                 ` Mark Brown
2017-06-20 23:28                   ` Steven Rostedt
2017-06-21  7:17                     ` Hannes Reinecke
2017-06-21 11:12                     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-22 14:06                       ` Steven Rostedt
2017-06-23  5:43                         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-23 13:09                           ` Steven Rostedt
2017-06-21 12:23                     ` Petr Mladek
2017-06-21 14:18                       ` Andrew Lunn
2017-06-23  8:46                         ` Petr Mladek
2017-06-21 16:09                       ` Andrew Lunn
2017-06-23  8:49                         ` Petr Mladek
2017-07-19  7:35                   ` David Woodhouse
2017-07-20  7:53                     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-20 16:09         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-19 16:26       ` Steven Rostedt
2017-06-19 16:35         ` Andrew Lunn
2017-06-24 11:14         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-06-24 14:06           ` Andrew Lunn
2017-06-24 22:42             ` Steven Rostedt
2017-06-24 23:21               ` Andrew Lunn
2017-06-24 23:26                 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-06-24 23:40                   ` Steven Rostedt
2017-06-26 11:16                     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-24 23:48                   ` Al Viro
2017-06-25  1:29                     ` Andrew Lunn
2017-06-25  2:41                       ` Linus Torvalds
2017-06-26  8:46                         ` Jiri Kosina
2017-07-19  7:59                           ` David Woodhouse
2017-06-20 15:56     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-20 18:45     ` Daniel Vetter
2017-06-21  9:29       ` Petr Mladek
2017-06-21 10:15       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-22 13:42         ` Daniel Vetter
2017-06-22 13:48           ` Daniel Vetter [this message]
2017-06-23  9:07             ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2017-06-27 13:06               ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-23  5:20           ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-19 23:46 ` Josh Triplett
2017-06-20  8:24   ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-06-20 14:36     ` Steven Rostedt
2017-06-20 15:26       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-22 16:35 ` David Howells
2017-07-19  6:24 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-07-19  6:25   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-07-19  7:26     ` Daniel Vetter
2017-07-20  5:19       ` Sergey Senozhatsky

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