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Wysocki" Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2024 16:44:04 +0200 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: [MAINTAINERS SUMMIT] [4/4] Discuss how to better prevent backports of commits that turn out to cause regressions To: Konstantin Ryabitsev Cc: Michael Ellerman , Jan Kara , Thorsten Leemhuis , "ksummit@lists.linux.dev" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jun 14, 2024 at 4:38=E2=80=AFPM Konstantin Ryabitsev wrote: > > On Sat, Jun 15, 2024 at 12:29:09AM GMT, Michael Ellerman wrote: > > > 1. disambiguates Link: trailers so they point to relevant online disc= ussions > > > 2. allows tooling like b4, patchwork, etc, to reliably match commits = to > > > submissions for the purposes of better code review automation > > > 3. allows stable and similar projects to better track series grouping= for > > > commits > > > > Message-Id: sucks, I want a link I can open with a single click. > > But why would you want to, on a regular basis? Viewing the series submiss= ion > has got to provide near zero useful info -- if it was accepted into the t= ree, > then at most it would have a couple of stray code review trailers. > > > At your suggestion I switched to using https://msgid.link/ as the targe= t > > for patch links, eg: > > > > Link: https://msgid.link/20240529123029.146953-2-mpe@ellerman.id.au > > This is still my recommendation, but it doesn't stop someone from using > msgid.link URLs to link to actual discussions. It also doesn't solve the > problem being discussed here -- reliably mapping commits to patch submiss= ions > for the purposes of automation. IMO anything short of a new tag wouldn't help. With a new tag, say Submission:, pointing to the original patch at Lore, this could be addressed. Of course, people would need to see a clear benefit to adopt it because it would require some extra work to use.