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From: Krzysztof Kozlowski <k.kozlowski@samsung.com>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
Cc: "ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org"
	<ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org>,
	riverful.kim@samsung.com, kyungmin.park@samsung.com,
	John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>,
	Bjorn Andersson <Bjorn.Andersson@sonymobile.com>
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [CORE TOPIC] Mainline kernel on a cellphone
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2015 22:23:53 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJKOXPc7Uryq2PFrKyC_rwSLwR9GadJEzS6YMdGcCBJY-QNNPw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150723121441.GB29747@amd>

2015-07-23 21:14 GMT+09:00 Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>:
> On Thu 2015-07-23 13:21:19, Linus Walleij wrote:
>> On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 12:57 PM, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz> wrote:
>>
>> > Significant percentage of phones run Linux kernel today, but geting
>> > mainline kernel to work on a phone is very hard to do. (So hard, that
>> > newest device that is close to working on recent mainline was made in
>> > 2009.) There are multiple obstacles, including huge patches from
>> > silicon vendors, missing GNU/Linux userspace support that makes kernel
>> > testing hard, interfaces unsuitable for phones and power management
>> > problems.
>> >
>> > Interested people:
>> >
>> > Sebastian Reichel <sre@kernel.org>
>> > Pali Rohár <pali.rohar@gmail.com>
>>
>> I'm adding Björn Andersson <bjorn.andersson@sonymobile.com> to this list.
>>
>> Björn has as of yesterday booted a mainline kernel on the SONY
>> Xperia Z3 and his company has demonstrated strong interest in
>> getting the mainline kernel to run on their handsets.
>> https://plus.google.com/102276447148493441479/posts/amRvpE8piSw
>
> Yes. Plus, there seems to be group at Samsung. Trats is a cellphone iirc.
>
> http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/linux-arm-kernel/2011-December/078428.html
>
> Signed-off-by: HeungJun, Kim <riverful.kim at samsung.com>
> Signed-off-by: Kyungmin Park <kyungmin.park at samsung.com>

Interesting topic also for me. We were (and still are) spending
significant effort so Trats (~Galaxy S 2 for Tizen) and Trats2 devices
(Galaxy S III released for Tizen) would be fully supported by
mainline. The same we did more recently for Gear 2 smartwatch.
Although it is not a cellphone but fits to a mobile device category.

Standard Debian works fine on them. With a mobile operating system -
like Tizen - it gets more difficult.

Most of the drivers are there but few important SoC components are
missing (for example camera for Gear 2). One of the obstacles here was
lack of public firmware which prevented mainlining some of the drivers
(e.g. FIMC - the camera).

Best regards,
Krzysztof

  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-07-23 13:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-07-23 10:57 Pavel Machek
2015-07-23 11:21 ` Linus Walleij
2015-07-23 12:14   ` Pavel Machek
2015-07-23 12:42     ` Steven Rostedt
2015-07-23 15:40       ` Mark Brown
2015-07-28 22:09         ` Tim Bird
2015-07-28 23:07           ` Bjorn Andersson
2015-07-31 16:18             ` Rob Herring
2015-07-31 16:56               ` Bjorn Andersson
2015-08-11  9:34                 ` Johannes Berg
2015-07-31 17:25               ` Tim Bird
2015-08-03 15:29                 ` John W. Linville
2015-08-03  7:42               ` Linus Walleij
2015-08-03 21:34                 ` Rob Herring
2015-08-03 22:36                   ` Marcel Holtmann
2015-08-05  8:40                     ` Linus Walleij
2015-08-05  8:46                       ` Linus Walleij
2015-08-05  9:11                         ` Samuel Ortiz
2015-08-05 11:54                         ` Pavel Machek
2015-08-05  9:09                       ` Samuel Ortiz
2015-08-05 17:19                       ` Marcel Holtmann
2015-08-05 16:02                     ` Rob Herring
2015-08-05 17:00                       ` Marcel Holtmann
2015-08-07 12:40                         ` Linus Walleij
2015-07-29  0:45           ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2015-07-29  6:12             ` Laurent Pinchart
2015-07-29  7:40             ` Pavel Machek
2015-08-25 18:59               ` Tim Bird
2015-08-26  1:22                 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2015-08-26  4:25                   ` Sudip Mukherjee
2015-08-26  4:52                     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2015-08-26  5:30                       ` Laurent Pinchart
2015-08-26  5:33                         ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2015-08-26  6:15                           ` Josh Triplett
2015-08-26  7:23                             ` Heiko Stuebner
2015-08-26  8:05                               ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2015-08-28  8:20                                 ` Nicolas Ferre
2015-08-26 11:33                   ` Mark Brown
2015-08-26 12:56                   ` Jason Cooper
2015-08-26 13:35                     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-08-26 13:58                     ` Sudip Mukherjee
2015-08-26 14:51                       ` Jason Cooper
2015-08-26 17:13                         ` Sudip Mukherjee
2015-08-26 20:09                           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-08-28  7:44                             ` Pavel Machek
2015-08-28  8:42                               ` Heiko Stuebner
2015-08-29 15:47                                 ` Sudip Mukherjee
2015-07-29  8:18             ` Heiko Stübner
2015-07-29  0:56           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-07-29  6:43           ` Daniel Vetter
2015-07-29 17:42             ` Tim Bird
2015-07-29  7:14           ` Bintian
2015-07-29 18:07             ` Tim Bird
2015-07-31  1:50               ` Bintian
2015-07-23 20:29       ` Pavel Machek
2015-07-23 20:34         ` Pavel Machek
2015-07-24  4:34           ` NeilBrown
2015-07-24  6:00             ` Tony Lindgren
2015-07-24 22:26               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-07-28 22:03                 ` NeilBrown
2015-07-29  0:51                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-07-29 23:23                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-07-29 23:59                       ` NeilBrown
2015-07-30  0:57                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-07-31 17:55                           ` Mark Brown
2015-08-01  0:08                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-07-23 21:00         ` josh
2015-07-23 21:29           ` Pavel Machek
2015-07-29 13:32         ` Mark Brown
2015-07-31 12:22           ` Pavel Machek
2015-07-31 17:52             ` Mark Brown
2015-07-31 22:03               ` Pavel Machek
2015-08-01 10:55                 ` Mark Brown
2015-08-01 19:03                   ` Pavel Machek
2015-08-04 17:17                     ` Mark Brown
2015-08-03  5:33                 ` Tony Lindgren
2015-07-23 13:23     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski [this message]
2015-07-23 21:56       ` Pavel Machek
2015-07-24  1:37         ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2015-07-24  4:40       ` Kyungmin Park
2015-07-23 14:48 ` Shuah Khan
2015-07-23 15:08 ` Heiko Stübner
2015-08-04 19:39 ` Pavel Machek
2015-08-05  7:05   ` Bintian

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