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[209.85.218.54]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id a640c23a62f3a-a9a912ee592sm260750666b.79.2024.10.21.15.56.30 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 21 Oct 2024 15:56:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ej1-f54.google.com with SMTP id a640c23a62f3a-a9932aa108cso737063166b.2 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2024 15:56:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Forwarded-Encrypted: i=1; AJvYcCWOLS9DHr/omvYlMtMKlWdppTq4tUzgIx96rTk5T3mEmrRFFV9bhCm6hyqtVmBjtfDxQFFvEs/m@lists.linux.dev X-Received: by 2002:a17:907:31c2:b0:a9a:66a9:2c55 with SMTP id a640c23a62f3a-a9aace25cb3mr45947166b.6.1729551389933; Mon, 21 Oct 2024 15:56:29 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: ksummit@lists.linux.dev List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Linus Torvalds Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2024 15:56:13 -0700 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: linus-next: improving functional testing for to-be-merged pull requests To: Sasha Levin Cc: "Liam R. Howlett" , ksummit@lists.linux.dev, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Mon, 21 Oct 2024 at 12:44, Sasha Levin wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 21, 2024 at 02:36:39PM -0400, Liam R. Howlett wrote: > > > >Would it be difficult to catch branches that change things outside their > >scope without correct SOB/RB/Acks? Asking for a friend... > > Up to the guy in charge... I don't want to attempt and monitor a policy > that won't be enforced :) > > If Linus wants to add this to the workflow (which is doable), then an > explicit ack would be great. Has this been a huge deal? There are things like ABI changes (function renames, dropping or adding arguments etc etc) that will inevitably end up tree-wide, and honestly, it would often be totally frustrating trying to get acks from every maintainer. Is it hugely common? No. But still, I'm not convinced there is a sane model for "outside their scope". I mean, sure, if the change comes from an individual driver or filesystem or something like that, then it generally has no business touching anything else. So it *can* be an issue, but I don't see how to sanely automate this kind of thing without it becoming a potential huge annoyance. Maybe other people don't mind, but I personally hate false positives that you are then supposed to ignore when appropriate. It just makes people ignore the things they *should* care about. Linus