From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Bart Van Assche <bvanassche@acm.org>
Cc: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>,
ksummit@lists.linux.dev, Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Dan Carpenter <dan.carpenter@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: Clarifying confusion of our variable placement rules caused by cleanup.h
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2025 11:14:21 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHk-=wh3pguds+vjKy81X2o0uJj+AhwpMu2=mf6jciQjEQ781Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <82a250e0-de9e-467a-882e-7acefbfd7c24@acm.org>
On Tue, 18 Nov 2025 at 11:05, Bart Van Assche <bvanassche@acm.org> wrote:
>
> In a C++ style guide I found the following advice for type deduction:
>
> "Use type deduction only if it makes the code clearer to readers who
> aren't familiar with the project, or if it makes the code safer. Do not
> use it merely to avoid the inconvenience of writing an explicit type."
I don't think that's a bad rule, no. I don't think we should encourage
people to switch to automatic types just because they can, but I do
think there are situations where it makes sense and makes the code
simpler.
As mentioned, most of our automatic types currently are hidden in
helper macros. I think it typically works best in those, where you
effectively make them type-agnostic.
But I do think it also makes sense in various allocation scenarios,
where just repeating the same type multiple times adds no real upside.
It's not exactly uncommon to have code like this:
struct xyz *abc = kzalloc(sizeof(struct xyz), GPF_KERNEL);
and I don't think there's any actual *value* in stating that "struct
xyz" twice (or in stating the sizeof()).
Again: I don't think we should *push* people to do this, but I think
it's a reasonable thing to allow. And it's a situation where having
the declaration in the middle of the code really does make sense.
Linus
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-11-18 19:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-11-18 16:39 James Bottomley
2025-11-18 17:18 ` Bart Van Assche
2025-11-18 18:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-11-18 19:04 ` Bart Van Assche
2025-11-18 19:14 ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2025-11-18 20:43 ` Al Viro
2025-11-18 19:15 ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-11-18 19:11 ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-11-18 19:16 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-11-18 19:19 ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-11-18 19:17 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-11-18 19:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-11-18 19:56 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-11-18 20:23 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-11-18 21:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-11-18 20:21 ` James Bottomley
2025-11-18 20:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-11-18 20:51 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-11-18 21:10 ` James Bottomley
2025-11-18 22:34 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-11-18 23:32 ` James Bottomley
2025-11-18 19:23 ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-11-18 20:28 ` James Bottomley
2025-11-25 13:09 ` Jani Nikula
2025-11-25 14:25 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2025-11-25 15:32 ` Stephen Hemminger
2025-11-25 16:04 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-11-25 17:57 ` H. Peter Anvin
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