From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Eric Sandeen <sandeen@sandeen.net>
Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
ksummit@lists.linux.dev, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [MAINTAINERS/KERNEL SUMMIT] Trust and maintenance of file systems
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2023 10:03:55 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHk-=wg=xY6id92yS3=B59UfKmTmOgq+NNv+cqCMZ1Yr=FwR9A@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b7ca4a4e-a815-a1e8-3579-57ac783a66bf@sandeen.net>
On Wed, 13 Sept 2023 at 09:52, Eric Sandeen <sandeen@sandeen.net> wrote:
>
> Isn't it more typical to mark something as on its way to deprecation in
> Kconfig and/or a printk?
I haven't actually heard a good reason to really stop supporting
these. Using some kind of user-space library is ridiculous. It's *way*
more effort than just keeping them in the kernel. So anybody who says
"just move them to user space" is just making things up.
The reasons I have heard are:
- security
Yes, don't enable them, and if you enable them, don't auto-mount them
on hot-pkug devices. Simple. People in this thread have already
pointed to the user-space support for it happening.
- syzbot issues.
Ignore them for affs & co.
- "they use the buffer cache".
Waah, waah, waah. The buffer cache is *trivial*. If you don't like the
buffer cache, don't use it. It's that simple.
But not liking the buffer cache and claiming that's a reason to not
support a filesystem is just complete BS.
Linus
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-09-13 17:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 97+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-08-30 14:07 Christoph Hellwig
2023-09-05 23:06 ` Dave Chinner
2023-09-05 23:23 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-09-06 2:09 ` Dave Chinner
2023-09-06 15:06 ` Christian Brauner
2023-09-06 15:59 ` Christian Brauner
2023-09-06 19:09 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-09-08 8:34 ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-09-07 0:46 ` Bagas Sanjaya
2023-09-09 12:50 ` James Bottomley
2023-09-09 15:44 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-09-10 19:51 ` James Bottomley
2023-09-10 20:19 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-09-10 21:15 ` Guenter Roeck
2023-09-11 3:10 ` Theodore Ts'o
2023-09-11 19:03 ` James Bottomley
2023-09-12 0:23 ` Dave Chinner
2023-09-12 16:52 ` H. Peter Anvin
2023-09-09 22:42 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-09-10 8:19 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-09-10 8:37 ` Bernd Schubert
2023-09-10 16:35 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-09-10 17:26 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-09-10 17:35 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-09-11 1:05 ` Dave Chinner
2023-09-11 1:29 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-09-11 2:07 ` Dave Chinner
2023-09-11 13:35 ` David Disseldorp
2023-09-11 17:45 ` Bart Van Assche
2023-09-11 19:11 ` David Disseldorp
2023-09-11 23:05 ` Dave Chinner
2023-09-26 5:24 ` Eric W. Biederman
2023-09-08 8:55 ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-09-08 22:47 ` Dave Chinner
2023-09-06 22:32 ` Guenter Roeck
2023-09-06 22:54 ` Dave Chinner
2023-09-07 0:53 ` Bagas Sanjaya
2023-09-07 3:14 ` Dave Chinner
2023-09-07 1:53 ` Steven Rostedt
2023-09-07 2:22 ` Dave Chinner
2023-09-07 2:51 ` Steven Rostedt
2023-09-07 3:26 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-09-07 8:04 ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2023-09-07 10:29 ` Christian Brauner
2023-09-07 11:18 ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2023-09-07 12:04 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-09-07 12:57 ` Guenter Roeck
2023-09-07 13:56 ` Christian Brauner
2023-09-08 8:44 ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-09-07 3:38 ` Dave Chinner
2023-09-07 11:18 ` Steven Rostedt
2023-09-13 16:43 ` Eric Sandeen
2023-09-13 16:58 ` Guenter Roeck
2023-09-13 17:03 ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2023-09-15 22:48 ` Dave Chinner
2023-09-16 19:44 ` Steven Rostedt
2023-09-16 21:50 ` James Bottomley
2023-09-17 1:40 ` NeilBrown
2023-09-17 17:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-09-17 18:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-09-17 18:57 ` Theodore Ts'o
2023-09-17 19:45 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-09-18 11:14 ` Jan Kara
2023-09-18 17:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-09-18 19:32 ` Jiri Kosina
2023-09-18 19:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-09-18 20:50 ` Theodore Ts'o
2023-09-18 22:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-09-18 20:33 ` H. Peter Anvin
2023-09-19 4:56 ` Dave Chinner
2023-09-25 9:43 ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-09-27 22:23 ` Dave Kleikamp
2023-09-19 1:15 ` Dave Chinner
2023-09-19 5:17 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-09-19 16:34 ` Theodore Ts'o
2023-09-19 16:45 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-09-19 17:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-09-19 22:57 ` Dave Chinner
2023-09-18 14:54 ` Bill O'Donnell
2023-09-19 2:44 ` Dave Chinner
2023-09-19 16:57 ` James Bottomley
2023-09-25 9:38 ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-09-25 14:14 ` Dan Carpenter
2023-09-25 16:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-09-07 9:48 ` Dan Carpenter
2023-09-07 11:04 ` Segher Boessenkool
2023-09-07 11:22 ` Steven Rostedt
2023-09-07 12:24 ` Segher Boessenkool
2023-09-07 11:23 ` Dan Carpenter
2023-09-07 12:30 ` Segher Boessenkool
2023-09-12 9:50 ` Richard Biener
2023-10-23 5:19 ` Eric Gallager
2023-09-08 8:39 ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-09-08 8:38 ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-09-08 23:21 ` Dave Chinner
2023-09-07 0:48 ` Bagas Sanjaya
2023-09-07 3:07 ` Guenter Roeck
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