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[209.85.218.42]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id a640c23a62f3a-b842a27c755sm651249066b.18.2026.01.07.16.06.51 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 07 Jan 2026 16:06:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-ej1-f42.google.com with SMTP id a640c23a62f3a-b83b72508f3so431019566b.2 for ; Wed, 07 Jan 2026 16:06:51 -0800 (PST) X-Forwarded-Encrypted: i=1; AJvYcCXTLhj4j8zaOhH0JrT5J23j89S+sn5Vy4Xh8yajgLLl28Kd7nI6kgblrsiwJSJP18HINIZ6pm9A@lists.linux.dev X-Received: by 2002:a17:907:9716:b0:b80:411f:aa50 with SMTP id a640c23a62f3a-b844538b340mr480612266b.48.1767830811282; Wed, 07 Jan 2026 16:06:51 -0800 (PST) Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: ksummit@lists.linux.dev List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20260106205105.4037716-1-dave.hansen@linux.intel.com> <1e982055-47c2-43d1-a919-93b3e59f2ed0@lucifer.local> <93aadf2b-0df4-49eb-91fd-b401b44ce3af@sr71.net> <1c74353c-40de-4d0b-a517-92a94f8b4af8@lucifer.local> In-Reply-To: <1c74353c-40de-4d0b-a517-92a94f8b4af8@lucifer.local> From: Linus Torvalds Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2026 16:06:35 -0800 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: X-Gm-Features: AQt7F2o7ADy4euEN0cDDHOeWG2qEVyCnup91Q83wkHbB-5SZ2fIILimORUfY0t0 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [PATCH] [v3] Documentation: Provide guidelines for tool-generated content To: Lorenzo Stoakes Cc: Dave Hansen , Dave Hansen , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Shuah Khan , Kees Cook , Greg Kroah-Hartman , Miguel Ojeda , Luis Chamberlain , SeongJae Park , Dan Williams , Steven Rostedt , NeilBrown , "Theodore Ts'o" , Sasha Levin , Jonathan Corbet , Vlastimil Babka , workflows@vger.kernel.org, ksummit@lists.linux.dev Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Wed, 7 Jan 2026 at 13:20, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote: > > Thinking LLMs are 'just another tool' is to say effectively that the kernel > is immune from this. Which seems to me a silly position. No. Your position is the silly one. There is *zero* point in talking about AI slop. That's just plain stupid. Why? Because the AI slop people aren't going to document their patches as such. That's such an obvious truism that I don't understand why anybody even brings up AI slop. So stop this idiocy. The documentation is for good actors, and pretending anything else is pointless posturing. As I said in private elsewhere, I do *not* want any kernel development documentation to be some AI statement. We have enough people on both sides of the "sky is falling" and "it's going to revolutionize software engineering", I don't want some kernel development docs to take either stance. It's why I strongly want this to be that "just a tool" statement. And the AI slop issue is *NOT* going to be solved with documentation, and anybody who thinks it is either just naive, or wants to "make a statement". Neither of which is a good reason for documentation. Linus