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charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Sep 8, 2025 at 7:23=E2=80=AFPM Randy Dunlap = wrote: > On 9/8/25 8:42 AM, Coly Li wrote: > >> 2025=E5=B9=B49=E6=9C=888=E6=97=A5 23:39=EF=BC=8CSteven Rostedt =E5=86=99=E9=81=93=EF=BC=9A > >> > >>> > >>> I'm not really on program committee for either a Maintainers summit o= r LPC > >>> so take this just as a friendly advice from a bystander :) > >>> > >> > >> As Jan has stated, this is a technical topic. But you can send it to t= his > >> list too. From Ted's original email: > >> > >> Related to the Maintainer's Summit, the Kernel Summit is organized = as > >> a track which is run in parallel with the other tracks at the Linux > >> Plumbers Conference (LPC), and is open to all registered attendees = of > >> LPC. The goal of the Kernel Summit track will be to provide a foru= m > >> to discuss specific technical issues that would be easier to resolv= e > >> in person than over e-mail. The program committee will also consid= er > >> "information sharing" topics if they are clearly of interest to the > >> wider development community (i.e., advanced training in topics that > >> would be useful to kernel developers). > >> > >> To suggest a topic for the Kernel Summit, please do two things. by > >> September 10th, 2025. First, please send e-mail with a subject pref= ix of > >> [TECH TOPIC] to ksummit@lists.linux.dev. As before, please use a s= eparate > >> e-mail for each topic. > >> > >> Secondly, please create a topic at the Linux Plumbers Conference > >> proposal submission site and target it to the Kernel Summit track: > >> > >> https://lpc.events/event/19/abstracts > >> > >> Please do both steps. I'll try to notice if someone forgets one or > >> the other, but your chances of making sure your proposal gets the > >> necessary attention and consideration are maximized by submitting b= oth > >> to the mailing list and the web site. > >> > >> > >> The CfP is closing this Wednesday, so please submit it soon. > > > > Yes, I already submitted the CfP on https://lpc.events/event/19/abstrac= ts and got the confirmation email. > > > > Also I resend another proposal email subjected with [TECH TOPIC] and = almost identical message body. > > > > Thanks for the hint! > > Hi, > I don't object to such a topic, but I thought that LSMs were the wave > of the future for extended attributes or special capability handling. ? I can't say I'm familiar with the RichACL concept, but generally speaking yes, the LSM framework exists as a way to implement access control mechanisms beyond the traditional Linux access controls (other things too, but those aren't really relevant here). --=20 paul-moore.com