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[209.85.214.171]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id d9443c01a7336-29034e1cbcbsm136941555ad.45.2025.10.13.08.40.58 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 13 Oct 2025 08:40:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-pl1-f171.google.com with SMTP id d9443c01a7336-27d4d6b7ab5so60706365ad.2 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2025 08:40:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:d481:b0:24c:7bc6:7ac7 with SMTP id d9443c01a7336-2902723d3e5mr299646875ad.18.1760370056018; Mon, 13 Oct 2025 08:40:56 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: ksummit@lists.linux.dev List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Doug Anderson Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2025 08:40:43 -0700 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: X-Gm-Features: AS18NWCLjrLmIN9lXnnzUWg3f8iX5xKw4k9ElcmEAoHXq5-qk8Wn8uVdEiVA_wI Message-ID: Subject: Re: Replacing Link trailers To: James Bottomley Cc: "ksummit@lists.linux.dev" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Mon, Oct 13, 2025 at 4:53=E2=80=AFAM James Bottomley wrote: > > There has been a lot of discussion on the tooling list about how the > loss of link trailers has updated both tooling and triaging issues. > Konstantin has proposed a tool to get around this, but while that's in > development, I propose a discussion about making Link (or some > alternative tag) into the pointer that would work for everyone. A few random ideas to throw out there: 1. Could we submit a change to the "git" tool to allow something like the "Link" tag but hide it from the default settings? I'm thinking something like how "git" only shows the Author/AuthorDate by default until you say "--format=3Dfuller" and then it also shows you the Commit/CommitDate. Then we just tell Linus to keep the setting off and everyone is happy. 2. Given how "everyone" thinks AI is the best thing ever, could AI help the patch trackers find the version history of the patch / links to old versions? So when you click on a Link it takes you someplace where AI has already found links to all the old patches and perhaps even summarized the mailing list discussion? Maybe this is a terrible idea and we'd all get flamed the moment the AI gives some bad info, but somehow it seemed wrong to not suggest an AI solution in this day and age. :-P 3. Could folks somehow just stage an intervention and tell Linus that he's wrong and just has to accept the Link tag that he finds useless? ;-) (Hi Linus! I'm sure you're not reading this, right?) While I certainly can't consider my opinion to hold much weight, it sure seems like quite a few prominent people in the community find the Link tag very useful and are sad to see it go. Given all the people that find the tag useful, it kinda feels like it could stay? Even if Linus has a 10:1 or 100:1 vote in the topic, from what I gather keeping the "Link" tag would still win (assuming people that don't give a crap just abstain instead of voting "no"). Not that this is a democracy or anything... -Doug