From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D6F03CB6 for ; Wed, 12 Sep 2018 21:21:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-io1-f52.google.com (mail-io1-f52.google.com [209.85.166.52]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6CC9A13A for ; Wed, 12 Sep 2018 21:21:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-io1-f52.google.com with SMTP id y12-v6so1412397ioj.13 for ; Wed, 12 Sep 2018 14:21:29 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <8412864.7ztUKcXNNC@avalon> <2019489.6joTqyUi4Z@avalon> <20180911124423.GM2494@piout.net> <20180912182343.GI2760@piout.net> In-Reply-To: <20180912182343.GI2760@piout.net> From: Linus Walleij Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2018 23:21:12 +0200 Message-ID: To: Alexandre Belloni Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Cc: ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [MAINTAINER SUMMIT] community management/subsystem governance List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 8:23 PM Alexandre Belloni wrote: > [Me] > > I am worried that the intersection of the sets of people that > > naturally have the desired personality traits and also are > > reasonably good engineers is actually pretty small and that is > > why we have a problem. > > But is there really a problem to begin with? This is what Daniel wants > everybody to believe. He didn't scale in his own subsystem and basically > gave up reviewing drivers and this seems to be working fine for DRM. To me the problem is recruiting active maintainers, and not the formal title and the entry in MAINTAINERS, but one that actually feels responsibility for the code. Some have appeared in the past, they make some really nice contributions and then move on. But it is a bit like solar flares, I just don't know when they will turn up next and what makes them passionate and stay or when they leave. The upside (IMO) of DRMs model is that more people feel resonsible for the code. The downside is the risk that no-one does, and everyone just thinks someone else will do stuff. They seem to land on the plus so far. Yours, Linus Walleij