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From: Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>
To: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
Cc: "ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org"
	<ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [CORE TOPIC] More useful types in the linux kernel
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 14:44:17 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CACRpkdZGaY2zCYMufsqextP=izu-iYMNC3JJwtV4ZNQM7V8MEQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <15986.1469186392@warthog.procyon.org.uk>

On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 1:19 PM, David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com> wrote:

I'm just gonna hijack this to ask a question...

> I currently maintain a set of 26 cross-compilers (ppc64 is a box of symlinks)
> for building the kernel and bootloaders with gcc on Fedora:
(...)
>         gcc-arm-linux-gnu.x86_64                     5.3.1-2.fc23   updates

I've tested this thing and it works flawlessly with the kernel.
Also U-boot recently supplies its own div64 routine and dropped
the dependency on libgcc.a (IIRC).

So it works, but still of course this thing is there:

rpm -ql gcc-arm-linux-gnu-6.1.1-1.fc24.x86_64
(...)
/usr/lib/gcc/arm-linux-gnueabi/6.1.1/libgcc.a

Also this:

/usr/lib/gcc/arm-linux-gnueabi/6.1.1/crtbegin.o
/usr/lib/gcc/arm-linux-gnueabi/6.1.1/crtbeginS.o
/usr/lib/gcc/arm-linux-gnueabi/6.1.1/crtbeginT.o
/usr/lib/gcc/arm-linux-gnueabi/6.1.1/crtend.o
/usr/lib/gcc/arm-linux-gnueabi/6.1.1/crtendS.o
/usr/lib/gcc/arm-linux-gnueabi/6.1.1/crtfastmath.o

I suspect these things are implicitly compiled for one and only one ISA?
I honestly don't know how to even check which one. Does it use
hardfloat? Or has this problem of targetting several ISAs with a .a
file been fixes since I looked at it last?

I need to cross-compile ARMv4, ARMv5, ARMv6, ARMv7 and
ARMv8 for my systems. (Sorry for all old crap I'm keeping it's just
my job...)

That ABI problem is then manifolded if I would want to do anything
userspace, so I keep a whole range of tailored cross compilers and
prebuilt C libraries around that I know "just work", but I guess will
grow increasingly hard to maintain and it feels pretty unelegant at
times.

Is there a way for a distribution to provide a proper set of
ISA-specific stuff alongside a crosscompiler, if the crosscompiler
supports several different ISAs, like the ARMvN variants do?

Yours,
Linus Walleij

  reply	other threads:[~2016-07-22 12:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-07-19 15:32 Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-19 17:31 ` Mark Brown
2016-07-19 18:52   ` Jiri Kosina
2016-07-19 20:39     ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-20 15:53     ` Mark Brown
2016-07-20 17:04       ` [Ksummit-discuss] [CORE TOPIC] [TECH TOPIC] Support (or move towards to) LLVM Jiri Kosina
2016-07-20 18:35         ` Alexey Dobriyan
2016-07-20 18:52           ` Mark Brown
2016-07-21  9:54         ` David Woodhouse
2016-07-21 13:41           ` Shuah Khan
2016-07-21 14:02             ` David Woodhouse
2016-07-21 16:21               ` Mark Brown
2016-07-23  3:28                 ` Behan Webster
2016-07-21 18:38           ` Jiri Kosina
2016-07-21 20:47             ` Paul Turner
2016-07-26 11:22             ` David Woodhouse
2016-07-19 21:08 ` [Ksummit-discuss] [CORE TOPIC] More useful types in the linux kernel James Bottomley
2016-07-20  0:08   ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-20  7:32     ` Julia Lawall
2016-07-20 12:11     ` Jan Kara
2016-07-28  3:33       ` Steven Rostedt
2016-07-19 21:26 ` Josh Triplett
2016-07-20  2:36   ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-30 18:03   ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-30 18:49     ` Josh Triplett
2016-07-30 19:34       ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-30 20:56         ` Josh Triplett
2016-07-30 22:21           ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-21 15:05 ` David Howells
2016-07-21 23:33   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2016-07-22  6:00   ` Hannes Reinecke
2016-07-22  6:14     ` Julia Lawall
2016-07-22 13:57       ` Hannes Reinecke
2016-07-22 14:40         ` Julia Lawall
2016-07-22 19:12         ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-07-26 11:48         ` David Woodhouse
2016-07-26 12:53           ` Hannes Reinecke
2016-07-26 13:59             ` Alexey Dobriyan
2016-07-26 13:53           ` Alexey Dobriyan
2016-07-27 12:40           ` Julia Lawall
2016-07-27 13:25             ` James Bottomley
2016-07-27 13:33               ` David Woodhouse
2016-07-27 17:21                 ` Bird, Timothy
2016-08-01 22:17                   ` Rob Herring
2016-08-12  1:29                     ` Stephen Boyd
2016-08-11 15:44         ` Dan Carpenter
2016-08-12  0:38           ` NeilBrown
2016-08-12 20:56             ` Dan Carpenter
2016-08-12  3:51           ` Matthew Wilcox
2016-08-12  4:01             ` Josh Triplett
2016-08-12  4:07               ` Matthew Wilcox
2016-08-12  5:29                 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2016-08-12  5:38                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-08-12  6:04                     ` Julia Lawall
2016-08-12  6:09                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-08-12  6:23                         ` Matthew Wilcox
2016-08-12  6:37                         ` Julia Lawall
2016-08-12  5:50                   ` Matthew Wilcox
2016-08-04  7:15       ` NeilBrown
2016-08-04 11:19         ` Julia Lawall
2016-07-22  7:03   ` David Howells
2016-07-22 10:10     ` Alexey Dobriyan
2016-07-22 10:13     ` David Howells
2016-07-22 10:22       ` Alexey Dobriyan
2016-07-22 10:53         ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-07-22 11:05         ` David Howells
2016-07-22 17:18           ` Julia Lawall
2016-07-22 18:19     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2016-07-22 19:43       ` Guenter Roeck
2016-07-28  3:40   ` Steven Rostedt
2016-07-28  7:12   ` David Howells
2016-08-02 10:48   ` Jani Nikula
2016-08-04 11:31     ` David Woodhouse
2016-08-04 12:07       ` Jani Nikula
2016-07-22 11:19 ` David Howells
2016-07-22 12:44   ` Linus Walleij [this message]
2016-07-22 13:26   ` David Howells
2016-08-12  4:42 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found]   ` <871t1ulfvz.fsf@notabene.neil.brown.name>
2016-08-12  5:34     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-08-12  6:23       ` NeilBrown
     [not found]       ` <87y442jytb.fsf@notabene.neil.brown.name>
2016-08-15 23:26         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-08-12  6:23   ` NeilBrown

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