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But every so often, one catches my attention where I think a patch > shouldn't be added. But that's very few and far between OBRequirementsPlug: Documenting low level design expectations [1][2][3] should provide a foundation for semantic filtering. It is one thing to be faced with a "big wall of patch" that looks like a "big pile of work". It is a completely different game when you can readily identify what parts of the design that patch affects. There is no panacea, but a stepwise improvement is definitely within reach. ..Ch:W.. [1] https://sched.co/1zfhU [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D_N3l_EEV8uM [3] https://lpc.events/event/18/contributions/1894/