From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A014AF1 for ; Wed, 7 May 2014 18:14:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ob0-f179.google.com (mail-ob0-f179.google.com [209.85.214.179]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 63E402026E for ; Wed, 7 May 2014 18:14:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ob0-f179.google.com with SMTP id gq1so1676293obb.24 for ; Wed, 07 May 2014 11:14:09 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: jwboyer@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <20140507180315.GA926@srcf.ucam.org> References: <20140507180315.GA926@srcf.ucam.org> Date: Wed, 7 May 2014 14:14:09 -0400 Message-ID: From: Josh Boyer To: Matthew Garrett Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [CORE TOPIC] Trusted kernel patchset List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 2:03 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote: > (Posting as core rather than tech because I suspect this is more > political than technical at this point) > > Most major distributions ship these. There is strong demand from Google, > who want to use them in a use-case that has nothing to do with UEFI > Secure Boot. Making a distinction between root and kernel security is a > necessary part of securing a boot chain[1]. > > Yet, after apparently gaining at least a rough consensus at LPC last > year, we're now at the point where there's yet another suggestion for > how to rewrite them but absolutely nobody showing any signs of being > willing to do that work or any agreement from anyone in the security > community that entirely reworking capabilities is either practical or > desirable. > > It'd be nice to have this done before August, but given that all > previous attempts to actually get it unblocked on mailing lists have > failed maybe we should talk about it in person. Again. I think it's fairly obvious I'd like to attend this. Other suggested people would be: James Bottomley James Morris Kees Cook Joey Li Gary Lin Vojtech Pavlik josh