From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 017CC892 for ; Tue, 23 May 2017 20:34:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-io0-f194.google.com (mail-io0-f194.google.com [209.85.223.194]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 24F2216F for ; Tue, 23 May 2017 20:34:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-io0-f194.google.com with SMTP id o12so16604914iod.2 for ; Tue, 23 May 2017 13:34:31 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: linus971@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: From: Linus Torvalds Date: Tue, 23 May 2017 13:34:29 -0700 Message-ID: To: Thomas Gleixner , James Bottomley Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Cc: David Miller , ksummit Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] "Maintainer summit" invitation discussion List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 11:47 AM, Thomas Gleixner wrote: > > I'm probably late, but I would like to add myself to that list. As RT (and > upstream) maintainer I'm pretty involved in large scale overhauls and > restructuring which is often enough a process issue. So I certainly have no objection, but I think we should strive to have something approaching a "process" for the picking. I assume there's an actual official KS organizing committee, although I have no idea who would be on it, except for the presumed usual suspects (ie Ted and James). And I would suggest that in order to make it easier on them, _and_ to actually also have an agenda in place when we show up in October, people who want to nominate themselves (or somebody else, for that matter), actually write a little blurb about what they want to bring up for the agenda. That would help both the selection committee and the agenda. In the "what to bring up" blurb, I'd really suggest not just bringing up a problem, but mentioning a possible real constructive (perhaps partial) solution too, as part of why that particular person should be at the KS and why it's worth discussing. We don't want it to be a "this is a problem I have" kvetching session. We know part of the agenda already, it was discussed earlier in the thread. We've had the eternal issue about non-responsive maintainers and how to try to improve that (whether it's group maintainership or "fall-through-the-cracks" people or whatever). And I think we've discussed regression tracking pretty much every year too. But wouldn't it be good if the KS committee could basically get both a suggested agenda item and a person selection hint at the same time? Would there be some convenient way to submit those? We're all email people, so perhaps just an email with something to easily search for in the subject line. Just to the list, or who are the actual KS point men? On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 12:29 PM, James Bottomley wrote: > > I'm happy to try to wrangle interesting and highly technical vendor > talks. I believe the current time plan for the maintainer summit is > half a day (is this correct?), so I propose we do vendor talks in the > other half of the day. That way people who aren't interested can take > the afternoon or morning (depending where people want it in the > timetable) off to see Prague. Sounds reasonable by me. Assuming we can get _good_ vendor talks. Linus