From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
Cc: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>,
mchehab+samsung@kernel.org,
ksummit <ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [MAINTAINERS SUMMIT] Handling of embargoed security issues
Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2018 07:20:07 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+55aFwHH7cN0GXcV7trRs1zgdak+_e8-TyXEsXu62G5V_248A@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180909125130.GA16474@kroah.com>
On Sun, Sep 9, 2018 at 5:51 AM Greg KH <greg@kroah.com> wrote:
>
> But remember, this is only needed for the "crazy" issues, like Meltdown.
> What we put together add-hoc for L1TF worked well, and what we do every
> week in handling security issues sent to security@k.org works very well
> also. So well that no one really realizes what we do there :)
Note that at some point, we should just say "f*ck it".
For hardware bugs, we should remember that *we* aren't the ones that
are in trouble. If a hardware company makes it too hard for us to work
with them, we should literally say "go the f*ck away" and stop talking
to them.
It's *their* problem, not ours. If they only work with vendors unable
to talk to core maintainers, I guarantee that it will *remain* their
problem. I will happily tell the world that the hardware company
screwed up and didn't even help us try to fix things right.
Their lawyers and PR people can go screw themselves.
Seriously. People need to be aware that it's not us that should be
bending over backwards over hardware issues. If some hardware company
wants an NDA from me for their own screw-ups, I'll laugh in their
face, and then I'll tell journalists about how they actively made it
harder to fix their mess.
Linus
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-09-09 14:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-09-06 19:18 Jiri Kosina
2018-09-06 20:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-09-06 21:14 ` Jiri Kosina
2018-09-06 22:51 ` Eduardo Valentin
2018-09-07 9:17 ` Jani Nikula
2018-09-07 14:43 ` David Woodhouse
2018-09-06 22:55 ` Eduardo Valentin
2018-09-07 8:21 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-09-10 23:26 ` Eduardo Valentin
2018-09-11 8:45 ` Greg KH
2018-09-11 17:10 ` Dave Hansen
2018-09-11 18:28 ` Greg KH
2018-09-11 18:44 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-07 13:30 ` Jiri Kosina
2018-09-09 12:55 ` Greg KH
2018-09-09 19:48 ` Jiri Kosina
2018-09-10 4:04 ` Eduardo Valentin
2018-09-12 7:03 ` Greg KH
2018-09-10 4:12 ` Eduardo Valentin
2018-09-10 11:10 ` Mark Brown
2018-09-12 4:22 ` Balbir Singh
2018-09-08 4:21 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-09-08 8:56 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-08 11:21 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-09-08 11:34 ` Greg KH
2018-09-08 14:20 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-09-08 15:29 ` Greg KH
2018-09-08 15:00 ` James Bottomley
2018-09-08 15:32 ` Greg KH
2018-09-08 15:54 ` James Bottomley
2018-09-08 19:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-09-08 21:24 ` James Bottomley
2018-09-08 22:33 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-09-09 12:18 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-09-10 22:59 ` Dave Hansen
2018-09-11 8:48 ` Greg KH
2018-09-09 12:51 ` Greg KH
2018-09-09 14:20 ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2018-09-09 14:38 ` James Bottomley
2018-09-09 14:51 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-09-09 17:20 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-09-09 17:48 ` David Woodhouse
2018-09-09 18:17 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-09-09 18:56 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-09-09 19:19 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-09-09 20:20 ` Jiri Kosina
2018-09-09 21:36 ` James Bottomley
2018-09-10 9:25 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-10 14:40 ` James Bottomley
2018-09-11 8:20 ` Jiri Kosina
2018-09-11 9:03 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-09 19:41 ` Jiri Kosina
2018-09-08 19:26 ` Jiri Kosina
2018-09-08 19:47 ` James Bottomley
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