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From: Jiri Kosina <jikos@kernel.org>
To: Tzung-Bi Shih <tzungbi@kernel.org>
Cc: ksummit@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: [TECH TOPIC] Revocable: a mechanism for preventing "classic" use-after-free bugs
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2025 00:19:47 +0200 (CEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9q6poo2r-9589-45n8-037n-q75348021s34@xreary.bet> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aMWEhqia_jpl12uI@tzungbi-laptop>

On Sat, 13 Sep 2025, Tzung-Bi Shih wrote:

> Abstract
> 
> A "classic" Use-After-Free (UAF) can occur when resources tied to
> hot-pluggable devices are accessed after the device has been removed.  For
> example, an open file descriptor may hold references to such resources; if
> the device is unplugged, subsequent file operations on that descriptor can
> trigger an UAF.  This talk, a follow-up to a previous presentation[1],
> explores an approach to this challenge.
> 
> We will present "revocable"[2], a new kernel mechanism for resource
> management.  A revocable allows a resource provider (e.g., a device driver)
> to invalidate access to a resource from a consumer (e.g., a character device)
> when the underlying device is no longer available.  Once a resource is
> revoked, any further attempts to use it will fail gracefully, thus preventing
> the UAF.
> 
> We will discuss the design and implementation of the revocable mechanism and
> its application in the ChromeOS Embedded Controller drivers to fix a
> real-world UAF bug.  We hope to also start a discussion on how this generic
> mechanism could be adopted by other drivers to handle similar resource
> lifecycle issues.
> 
> [1] https://lpc.events/event/17/contributions/1627/
> [2] https://lore.kernel.org/chrome-platform/20250820081645.847919-1-tzungbi@kernel.org/T/#u

I will be honest and admit that I haven't looked at the linked resources 
yet in a big enough detail, but judging purely from the abstract above, I 
believe this will immediately met by "how is this different from 
device-managed (devm_*) resources?", so hinting about that in abstract 
already might be helpful.

Thanks,

-- 
Jiri Kosina
SUSE Labs


  reply	other threads:[~2025-09-13 22:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-09-13 14:49 Tzung-Bi Shih
2025-09-13 22:19 ` Jiri Kosina [this message]
2025-09-14  6:45   ` Greg KH
2025-09-17  5:17     ` Tzung-Bi Shih
2025-09-16  6:56 ` Linus Walleij

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