From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.kernel.org (aws-us-west-2-korg-mail-1.web.codeaurora.org [10.30.226.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6E91329188C for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2025 16:08:48 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1754410128; cv=none; b=tM5GHh09A6FuSpjqxewg/fX+7Qczo2YBRkuF3Bo1i83HPmeIb9YE16ieUThZv/oVb3YNFHp3lUq4l2QMCa0fm8ctGvxUQnETz/UBgYDgS6fYi1ocS56u2YX8BEvnHC6CbN1F+y61MpCFm94043hJlp2lErT/UcjouwTjM48pYDQ= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1754410128; c=relaxed/simple; bh=N3CPiiz32ewNBIzOfJDLFxqIYYR5+iOKcIgcrYjUryg=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To; b=OR4swt1fR+wbcGK49qAcEX3pYiVw1h7b+Pl2bRO+w0D8wv12njaDn0IO4RP7lRN4K4hD0PkaSrioYYuYcmfWI8bHsC0KXKV8dzZOgZy7yXezoTcdT5an6OEpfpHe7PINlBOiksTR4OZIDuc2W7Ni2327ny4iMka85yhPX821Jjw= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b=jCIi4nyT; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b="jCIi4nyT" Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6664FC4CEF0; Tue, 5 Aug 2025 16:08:47 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=k20201202; t=1754410128; bh=N3CPiiz32ewNBIzOfJDLFxqIYYR5+iOKcIgcrYjUryg=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=jCIi4nyTFK6nTujoka4iF/kM2oeBqlkZaWltVfBQibvBOkXRtN3gYqaStGV6v1hm4 KpewPISdvTWzQYVMgfzb+1Qvx7M0qFmyCxXkYXjobz1i4ROlWcO4nC0AOFswb42jDu JlUf3E9sjfoD4MnhJ33kcQ0GiV/fPfrNWuIeSW0gMkNpE8hekHcmEBOaBV3CmMHdnp EXMcVaEoIoHVFQR7TKOmW7tmYqbTHdwmk14n06st1WhJJnH6YsX8Aqc2ZUCVjRdHoc aKpkMxBmYpo/2BUJEHH9HsgJaTO+dSvEGPXbWXdJlVaIq5XLJT6cMTsmvybNPyaX+0 iOJu0wa1Kr/ug== Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2025 17:08:44 +0100 From: Mark Brown To: Jiri Kosina Cc: ksummit@lists.linux.dev Subject: Re: [MAINTAINERS SUMMIT] The amount of -stable emails Message-ID: <9dbe8a42-e43a-4beb-acfa-3ed1c069fa47@sirena.org.uk> References: <162r47q9-rp56-67so-7032-2r1rn36p03n6@fhfr.pbz> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: ksummit@lists.linux.dev List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="7mdgAxbV6SYKbKel" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <162r47q9-rp56-67so-7032-2r1rn36p03n6@fhfr.pbz> X-Cookie: Trap full -- please empty. --7mdgAxbV6SYKbKel Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Aug 05, 2025 at 05:38:55PM +0200, Jiri Kosina wrote: > This proposal is coming as a followup to the brief IRC discussion that=20 > happened a few months back. > The amount of e-mails that are coming (with maintainers directly CCed) as= =20 > a result of patches being merged to -stable is so overwhelming that I am= =20 > not sure that people are making any productive use of it whatsoever. > I am personally pretty much ignoring most of it, as (a) I wouldn't have= =20 > time to do anything else otherwise (b) I don't have a sufficient=20 > motivation / time to invest effort into stable in the fist place. > I feel it'd be beneficial to discuss this, and (depending on the outcome)= =20 > perhaps make it opt-in (or opt-out) at least, with people/subsystems=20 > having means how to be excluded from all that ... ? One thing I'd really like to see there would be to avoid sending each patch separately for every stable version, that just blows up the mail volume hugely especially for those of us with subsystems that carry a lot of quirks. I'm sure the range of versions something is being pulled back to could be expressed in a single mail instead, it's always some range of versions being processed en masse rather than just a single version. The per version cover letter is more useful for replying with test results but that doesn't need the whole series. --7mdgAxbV6SYKbKel Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAABCgAdFiEEreZoqmdXGLWf4p/qJNaLcl1Uh9AFAmiSLIsACgkQJNaLcl1U h9BJOwf9GbiSS532X9UpsMO5LIv2qt5llZ4+J01VrNHZ+ajIICSbIxJ6cTAnndGy VO07i2/wbwowQ+gkk6ugo7PDoryEBXHsvxWmCoKAxF7FG7q0TmJ49QDFakPzQIRh U/3t0AG6e4nONizTTZDKJJyqmzJ+8kDRq9X7I27yF1Kqk+eqOHmE8UGxFR0tV0UC Gik5iTn0W7uVM2/1lYej/5L6q4eMG8bzx7MjgfALskuqa6Es0OiIhfrOW+kdH7Kp J91z66pHRbUT9ZzOg6gXZ5M8VDI5aSnKLjZ9/h0SDsNXmYhDZ983jqO3o53f1b+g fUno5LpXfFrr/x18uZXlgRLkdwvdYg== =xqdd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --7mdgAxbV6SYKbKel--