From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.kernel.org (aws-us-west-2-korg-mail-1.web.codeaurora.org [10.30.226.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 59A8914D283 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2025 11:09:45 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1760440185; cv=none; b=npbaeIjDXsRhPZAhGFOtvTyzLzeljLwDVkFT6gC4B6ub+o67PQOXUrCsvFVnNQ1ZkqnsfmHRlv1POSKxQbVuOk1Ja9yn/JyarkRhsLX+9N3npO8i0AHb3hXZGHNVbsWLHRBVMMAF6zedXbJzvHb9JRazpFYz/ygXkDjqw4eI7pI= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1760440185; c=relaxed/simple; bh=KiCiGjyW6jnRm4w/zDSslb9IMoTQ+UOhSYH0q6C7S+I=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To; b=haQg0vf10kHi3Otn3GeroKjxwNv/3Auv2buiKoJ/RITL9N9u45CDS/2YFKni+XHFPcmZ78XEk1cTtX9HnaD1oVt4/tzZDzALWszu5XQy4n75MVVOOPgbuGK9wsywC8eapUph4RbTwYCUODsAFzLwqd9omnaKg96ElROHLz6J7qs= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b=VCuIJJkh; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b="VCuIJJkh" Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3E1CEC4CEE7; Tue, 14 Oct 2025 11:09:43 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=k20201202; t=1760440184; bh=KiCiGjyW6jnRm4w/zDSslb9IMoTQ+UOhSYH0q6C7S+I=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=VCuIJJkht8SmMxL9OIlCtJTc9S4cSmtpOkafNlqmCZuacFiyIHk4oB+8ggYMgWuMc 1IwvMeWcac3ety4Z/Ieqa84jxZf4rbYDbqk2bvZYHlBDBBTT0N0a7Yqj7cEFboBiqD tLfAO/L1+runiqSk3t30XU4FMEKsRp76xycfepPLvBdy0QVWVIaf0X6ExjKczsJT3O s/UKu4+FWmXCui4Qc7YsaC5PwI0Fds7IxMESIAaZShA9O6Fs+v55S5drG8ZdsqUeq4 4Eb4l10ebQWiDVZZyIlnV8w30Fb2AlVvvkqQNTLBipphzz9TqWsOqmZt34WQ3tTAM9 H1P1R7uRe9FeQ== Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2025 12:09:40 +0100 From: Mark Brown To: Doug Anderson Cc: Linus Torvalds , "H. Peter Anvin" , Theodore Ts'o , Steven Rostedt , James Bottomley , "ksummit@lists.linux.dev" Subject: Re: Replacing Link trailers Message-ID: <973213cc-b442-4cd2-b129-333f168bb9b1@sirena.org.uk> References: <20251013133913.015f253b@gandalf.local.home> <20251013175031.GJ354523@mit.edu> <7EE2713D-7612-4EAC-9E4E-225A92FEC9D3@zytor.com> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: ksummit@lists.linux.dev List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="FGwgOXupoVvQ1V8B" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Cookie: Go 'way! You're bothering me! --FGwgOXupoVvQ1V8B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Oct 13, 2025 at 01:34:05PM -0700, Doug Anderson wrote: > On Mon, Oct 13, 2025 at 12:20=E2=80=AFPM Linus Torvalds > > All the other arguments seem just disingenuous in that they literally > > give less useful information than "b4 dig" does. > Wow, I hadn't heard of "b4 dig" and it doesn't appear to have landed > yet. ...but I searched and it was easy to find a reference. I'll check > it out. Oh, it's using AI. I guess my suggestion that we should use AI > to solve this problem was more on point than I realized. ;-) ;-) ;-) > OK, I found Sasha's RFC [1]. Konstantin has an initial implementation in b4 tip which is not currently using AI but rather falling through a stack of heuristics to try to figure something out. It's a commitish to lore link lookup tool. --FGwgOXupoVvQ1V8B Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAABCgAdFiEEreZoqmdXGLWf4p/qJNaLcl1Uh9AFAmjuL3MACgkQJNaLcl1U h9Cg3gf+O6pLl5AZk0d4KrYQ0Om6OPo6JUqrBFEioGGqO6dB7MBlvEC+3R4kGa8c gJKtfg+NdrTP0AVO7KPcmvVZmFgGBOjiyFwqFFZn2zyEUIQvAv5yxtNP+n8dMX23 aEzUgTUsajV2K0trzxdSM5wPuSHN+cO06Tf7hPvw2txID1iyLJ86Ts0Suy+LjPxk JT4UPC+gc6xD2H+1GG6dFp9WUPQmzytTt3QRtBuyxG3asRlv9U19k05DZj+8cQRM vtG3pgoXiV+jXy3xbrGpNZDqKsqjMCx0r8ZkEExLcp1ISmVOH5C/9YJlbaJpuqVR LTjJ1dmYsNVcNkXjEFpekUUbKAubnA== =5iPi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --FGwgOXupoVvQ1V8B--