From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mail-pg1-f195.google.com (mail-pg1-f195.google.com [209.85.215.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 821D8208B0 for ; Thu, 9 Nov 2023 17:14:41 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=quarantine dis=none) header.from=ieee.org Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=ieee.org Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=ieee.org header.i=@ieee.org header.b="LmXnPv1F" Received: by mail-pg1-f195.google.com with SMTP id 41be03b00d2f7-5b97ca78da8so893530a12.3 for ; Thu, 09 Nov 2023 09:14:41 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ieee.org; s=google; t=1699550080; x=1700154880; darn=lists.linux.dev; h=content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to:from:references:cc:to :content-language:subject:user-agent:mime-version:date:message-id :from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=JUcet9CXGiFMTdM/gsoA8nqqbtKJ2w9r5XQkoVTangs=; b=LmXnPv1FEdu8eStaPeRfMS2dX0bIaxddSsC9YyVvfs4tlPQ6yNSYU47f/LlHDr2WTj 7A3bi1W8tWXWLwaXeotAa682PSltAREbuObar9MDAzMJ57DbAfCVHJS9vvOFp8jUvK8v 1XlwHsVGxey1ERopwldvWTdmbApWNVVoTWdVA= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1699550080; x=1700154880; h=content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to:from:references:cc:to :content-language:subject:user-agent:mime-version:date:message-id :x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=JUcet9CXGiFMTdM/gsoA8nqqbtKJ2w9r5XQkoVTangs=; b=T6JoAobtv1AOUh3JAb5NEcoROuVscrD145t4ieiKx7JIXZiXc4u9tIDnIjUcTq7LIX AkVI/rYWFTaCBrEWwFzH0ZaWF1cxlo5stsir0PVuULByhIJH5PhvHAaWOUMHd6sgUna3 dw0oYAv4r8+PI3l/+83dixNT01f3deGNyga/1/co3AJGzaRwG5uup/sHIjjeFpsndZBE VHYzqrMXyyp4eqlHewtL3u5K7f/W4diPEqbe6LGjufqjgSzuNQzVzZiSyn+/hSz0Qxj0 +CcMW9O6Rb8WWLzS8l+Z7YxWAAq4EIrptmw+wPLqeiboh3oBX1FwXZkpnQlJqA9TncxR M7yA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YxqBrqRwIwUTY8iBQ0PQpPOrX6A1bxqE7Rc+VH790pOuCQkkcrG AplqxGz2gKPbyZQFHjBI+USXxQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IFvR5dUwKjy7Yl7Qf2rn3a4AOM1s29l3PN+YcQ6cL/UyAxtTLcBq2JCOlW8/yDjjb0apqoctA== X-Received: by 2002:a05:6a20:2445:b0:138:2fb8:6c48 with SMTP id t5-20020a056a20244500b001382fb86c48mr6097019pzc.8.1699550080663; Thu, 09 Nov 2023 09:14:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.211.55.3] ([12.10.41.130]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id nh1-20020a17090b364100b0027cf8869ee7sm3540749pjb.0.2023.11.09.09.14.39 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 09 Nov 2023 09:14:40 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <903adc04-b56f-4b40-b009-4a760b3ff404@ieee.org> Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2023 11:14:38 -0600 Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: ksummit@lists.linux.dev List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: [workflows]RFC: switching "THE REST" in MAINTAINERS away from linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Language: en-US To: Laurent Pinchart , Dan Carpenter Cc: Steven Rostedt , Joe Perches , Mark Brown , Konstantin Ryabitsev , users@linux.kernel.org, ksummit@lists.linux.dev References: <20231106-venomous-raccoon-of-wealth-acc57c@nitro> <20231106110547.6956a430@gandalf.local.home> <280f404dcaab5a1cee2cc67f829c1d85aa91d772.camel@perches.com> <6737487f097401510c87f38239d2f75e22fca46d.camel@perches.com> <20231108140415.46f84baa@gandalf.local.home> <20231109092701.GG21616@pendragon.ideasonboard.com> From: Alex Elder In-Reply-To: <20231109092701.GG21616@pendragon.ideasonboard.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 11/9/23 3:27 AM, Laurent Pinchart wrote: > On Thu, Nov 09, 2023 at 11:32:16AM +0300, Dan Carpenter wrote: >> On Wed, Nov 08, 2023 at 02:04:15PM -0500, Steven Rostedt wrote: >>> >>> Right. For example, I use linux-trace-kernel@ to add patches to patchwork, >>> but I prefer the discussions to be done on LKML. >> >> I had no idea that how tracing worked... I normally strip out mailing >> lists from my patches if I think they're not necessary so I seldom CC >> lkml. In years past, there used to be a lot of complaining about CC'ing >> too many people so I try to trim the CC list when I send patches. I used to do this too but at some point I was told I was leaving someone or some list out. It seemed get_maintainer.pl was returning a smaller list of addressees than it once did, so I just started using the list it produces. It seems excessive though. My input is that whatever the outcome of all this discussion, please define it as policy and have get_maintainer.pl implement it. I don't want to have to think too hard about who *should* be included (beyond people I already know). -Alex > > I do exactly the same and drop LKML from most of my patch submissions if > there are more "appropriate" (in the sense of more targetted) lists > reported by get_maintainer.pl. > >> Networking doesn't need to be CC'd about wireless patches. >> Drm doesn't need to be CC'd about amd gpu driver patches. >> >> And for bug reports, I only ever CC one lore mailing list. (For zero >> day bot stuff, the bot chooses the CC lists). >