From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.kernel.org (aws-us-west-2-korg-mail-1.web.codeaurora.org [10.30.226.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BBE6D2356D9 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2025 12:25:27 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1754569527; cv=none; b=q0uiUilcp6/mEmUlwZc95X0+T+jsWlU6apgAFmVOXqPUZyO4TZH6Xjkik70CMRJr12dQYnfKWW95uY33rg93yBpzE7662ZMZ7lChufBsaQOS/Abl244quJ3WLC1i0dQkljtv8ik1hlKOuki5Zmrs9At1p+SmG687aONLODrsPNg= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1754569527; c=relaxed/simple; bh=fjkrSgbtTXsCZLG2dCD3Db5gg9w8PeYQmbolr85bci4=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To; b=QBJNL01jg9FMdsbwZ+BEWRUQW7yke3FYzShdabEEkPb0qPr43UN5fOXJfVnTiCfiWpr9mTFBw0otPWepxol+LD3n19eMiUtAN5NFg3jcwQSqsSxv1pY7bWp+eJexR5ScVOKihLsUHpmZahyDCJrQ+Ykitvwvpv4vKJ/8UlcJ0ck= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b=gB+A9DtI; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b="gB+A9DtI" Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 43029C4CEEB; Thu, 7 Aug 2025 12:25:26 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=k20201202; t=1754569527; bh=fjkrSgbtTXsCZLG2dCD3Db5gg9w8PeYQmbolr85bci4=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=gB+A9DtIKEoxTkW2wznHf9oDX4nYkExs1YYrNwXoO4cY3XTtKhc59MwTZc1YWJgf8 qgNDU5wLUviwWbhMHlW9+3EsqvLa0tHgZdaww6UDMDm8m8FPc5XjFSrVCTp7ylvk9e 90imP3L5jOHQAin17DWCujLIaaW10Q4vd4zGUdP94NbiH6LMFft1u9qTp2W3+6RAJf nf9XkK8C5MloGjGwirEk3XXJ4Mop5+aIe7TM0mBUCkudCwb826fQtrP3R3q7HVDPZc lXQHnuxWFToVz9wV5v1Fjnya4D0y46Wti5fbZGMMGxyGuLS454LwUhK+zZMeAIEXLv ZCWz/wef1qSHw== Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2025 13:25:23 +0100 From: Mark Brown To: Lorenzo Stoakes Cc: James Bottomley , Sasha Levin , ksummit@lists.linux.dev Subject: Re: [MAINTAINERS SUMMIT] The role of AI and LLMs in the kernel process Message-ID: <8b7daa48-0f79-4948-b0de-a09a7b456513@sirena.org.uk> References: <56e85d392471beea3322d19bde368920ba6323b6.camel@HansenPartnership.com> <1ced158f-b433-46ef-a70f-d035ec413a12@lucifer.local> <72ee0f61379054e327d502bbe77aae3d76966d17.camel@HansenPartnership.com> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: ksummit@lists.linux.dev List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Sz+9J4fJmLHs2zXN" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Cookie: Real Users hate Real Programmers. --Sz+9J4fJmLHs2zXN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Wed, Aug 06, 2025 at 08:26:41PM +0100, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote: > - Was the commit message of this patch generated in large part by an LLM > (excluding non-native speakers using an LLM to simply assist writing it > in english)? Easiest way to say that is probably to say "written by" and "translated by". I think for all these things we should just talk about tooling rather than specifically LLMs, as well as avoiding any rules lawyering about how precisely a given tool is implemented it's probably useful to know about tools whatever the technology. --Sz+9J4fJmLHs2zXN Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAABCgAdFiEEreZoqmdXGLWf4p/qJNaLcl1Uh9AFAmiUmzIACgkQJNaLcl1U h9DXOQf/TBHqWBWBftqMi8oMQJXonq1pypgknvCuv2qNydNLBlGOTF58rgc8GVso 4kKnPiWPlnYiJhjSrW4EVpt/JVqgqeF/AztgysXsT/rMvVXb306S9d4AW5bGzq8A L62E1m0JaEslDWxlGsmy4ElYXiodOGq83oLdQSQtMnFM16hEFFDLb/zfI144Z9Dv /nw8Egr70bVwLhTrjIot478Wk4K8hQCAo7VBQcjkFaBNoGZsK8G6Idd/KUGlBG3w HWKL4j1W3kjEeOQw+/rd2IZRjbTS+Of6l0jxo/9lVwOWQb9O263binkKISf/ItNI rgJDgrs94eyJ0ImnqTLwhzgKQeHsUw== =2yWq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sz+9J4fJmLHs2zXN--