From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mgamail.intel.com (mgamail.intel.com [192.55.52.151]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 92D0113AD3 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 2023 12:01:07 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=intel.com; i=@intel.com; q=dns/txt; s=Intel; t=1692273668; x=1723809668; h=from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:date: message-id:mime-version; bh=6WienYC8XVy8S5DzyNaDCHoxampazkCtSfDUXY6R+sE=; b=h+8x3qJZcI0rc2DRXjt6K9MUiapE6aYVNHSR3Ve97fvGA2L7d3P/elgy r2cXppzFnyrm9pMAS9dbx9pULL7kgdGD26H61FZ/G0cAhjXJyRw8f9qll rKUTUMyRywRBYkSYGqHBxbXey/ekkpQyt/leRc2bTEv5kv6vzRNVDGN3+ 9AyYeiasrgn6rCc6hRjlcsoNK5Kb1XLHQBsjlbjF4RsW15hxRN0vSk2/t zu17MyIkyjeDAzOL5ZzdyZgBCEiyKcLecnmn8PMmECE5Xzj0ENUXMFJFx 00DfG7YlBZfPSFWZ3MU3yOUEWhUX6Vv8GH/vN6ZDrIjg08MB9R/TFHVsk w==; X-IronPort-AV: E=McAfee;i="6600,9927,10803"; a="353106092" X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="6.01,180,1684825200"; d="scan'208";a="353106092" Received: from orsmga008.jf.intel.com ([10.7.209.65]) by fmsmga107.fm.intel.com with ESMTP/TLS/ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 17 Aug 2023 05:01:04 -0700 X-ExtLoop1: 1 X-IronPort-AV: E=McAfee;i="6600,9927,10803"; a="764057576" X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="6.01,180,1684825200"; d="scan'208";a="764057576" Received: from jnikula-mobl4.fi.intel.com (HELO localhost) ([10.237.66.162]) by orsmga008-auth.jf.intel.com with ESMTP/TLS/ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 17 Aug 2023 05:01:01 -0700 From: Jani Nikula To: Luis Chamberlain , Josef Bacik Cc: ksummit@lists.linux.dev, Jeff Layton , Song Liu Subject: Re: [MAINTAINERS SUMMIT] Maintainer burnout In-Reply-To: Organization: Intel Finland Oy - BIC 0357606-4 - Westendinkatu 7, 02160 Espoo References: <20230816180808.GB2919664@perftesting> Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2023 15:00:57 +0300 Message-ID: <87ttsx98ue.fsf@intel.com> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: ksummit@lists.linux.dev List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain On Wed, 16 Aug 2023, Luis Chamberlain wrote: > In so far as making it possible to get b) to help, my current excitement > surrounds around what Song Liu mentioned to me at LSFMM and then > quickly demonstrated that the eBPF folks are doing with patchwork. > Get the patches to be tested automatically, and *immediately* > patch reviewers and maintainers can get feedback if something is not even > worth reviewing. I'm all for automated testing and CI, and all i915 patches get tested before merging. But requiring everything to pass before a human so much as looks at it can be incredibly demotivating for contributors. For example, if they polish the contribution, and take all corner cases into consideration to pass the tests... and then get told their design is all wrong and needs to be redone from scratch. It's a balance. BR, Jani. -- Jani Nikula, Intel Open Source Graphics Center