From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from ms.lwn.net (ms.lwn.net [45.79.88.28]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3F9EF199FAC for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2025 22:54:40 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=45.79.88.28 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1754952881; cv=none; b=JDwjrFRRrcY9pYKS55NjtRdfqb6LItSt1RCnqdMYEXGGkeJS4PDLlmivaEZzJ5hQTJ3vzAccXif7QYO1tvL4n7dxZ4s6CiT5ary2x/6t08efgy0AG+k7nva3pGfrVKmT00hMiZNJs/LALAusRIZ7Zzub4K206DkK2xBl0NnexPo= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1754952881; c=relaxed/simple; bh=UzRkIFph4Do4Ajr4k7uEZGSMzK/BvG0OpYw7EyAtp9M=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:Message-ID: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=CAq8cxQK7QJsCve0ZCqeoAGbH4segL/0f5hh22BfwPDpKxHMfesl9kA9pyoXNCFjWgwsyA5Ko8I1UbNs0X9X7f22Zv3P4U5wSO/WyaJs2w0XNOOm4GJ7QybvXPjsykyAn60hnXuvkyrheQY41rIDJ/rvJ7mveMNuFKuveDuy2ds= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=lwn.net; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=lwn.net; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=lwn.net header.i=@lwn.net header.b=ReSbNpn1; arc=none smtp.client-ip=45.79.88.28 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=lwn.net Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=lwn.net Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=lwn.net header.i=@lwn.net header.b="ReSbNpn1" DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 ms.lwn.net 404F840AD5 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=lwn.net; s=20201203; t=1754952879; bh=sFooeJ+XUufMe6DK0+zudrA3ohgQz7dwkniIi3c7LHU=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=ReSbNpn1iKMtWfVh28pSCYwhzQ5j09VtALC6NQBFXLs7qrJaGXBoMA0+JnMFUvGQR Gsx9fKtOaQakFz0vtLtizkEVYe479zKHmWh+LoJPZ38WLzLOKAhhihvV4jO/Xnq06h ImPAxlUIATtERqV9Dc4ZkBKUf9YI3OjPayWMtVS/6GCA5HujU8DWVBk2Rj5XgqeoDK cYktHWyYQOAvs/UBcY6qeuj2HOsQkOUUXJ2UdktZ2lc0NvbKjeTVn6gLcA0sI5qq0x iNpXFlBFIcoPpSJpNPtZczGUJwQgCBjCCmnayvADSkLMDOvBNaqIzC7yhrgKvrqGeD 3NsISHDhH14ZQ== Received: from localhost (unknown [IPv6:2601:280:4600:2da9::1fe]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by ms.lwn.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 404F840AD5; Mon, 11 Aug 2025 22:54:39 +0000 (UTC) From: Jonathan Corbet To: paulmck@kernel.org, "Luck, Tony" Cc: Krzysztof Kozlowski , Sasha Levin , Jiri Kosina , ksummit@lists.linux.dev Subject: Re: [MAINTAINERS SUMMIT] Annotating patches containing AI-assisted code In-Reply-To: References: <1npn33nq-713r-r502-p5op-q627pn5555oo@fhfr.pbz> <12ded49d-daa4-4199-927e-ce844f4cfe67@kernel.org> Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2025 16:54:38 -0600 Message-ID: <87o6slbhap.fsf@trenco.lwn.net> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: ksummit@lists.linux.dev List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain "Paul E. McKenney" writes: > Another option is "The AI was trained only on input having a compatible > license." Which, to your point, would to the best of my knowledge cut > out all of the popular and easily available AIs. That option, of course, opens a separate barrel of worms: if we are relying on the system having been trained only on compatibly licensed material, then our ability to distribute the result depends on our complying with the relevant licenses, right? Including little details like preserving copyright notices...? Somehow, I don't really think that this option brings us much joy. jon