From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mail.ozlabs.org (gandalf.ozlabs.org [150.107.74.76]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7FBC93AC0F for ; Sat, 15 Jun 2024 11:29:59 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=150.107.74.76 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1718451004; cv=none; b=YANROZ19xv4JInS0wgaIipusGnYdNQKvlHpnVeiK5InKw4wcR4oX8OoXE2iFcY5tiLB+H4YorJzBcLoMwk4LfXhorPr5Du3+Q64fg65LRSl0z2tVVM5kMqY+4UFPYegi47nM/9mml6AP3YCIZV991C7lbWT3EoN1B44ohr2afIY= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1718451004; c=relaxed/simple; bh=mNzTUlSw+Nf6o3+yNoWrTmCVyQwIfVldzNMXwnDX47M=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:Message-ID: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=F3P7292jhuy/K5Y9fVQ3wdAYlTyETuWd15k8cHQx3ScSr6Zjs/anDd6TAi35ywGi8I4Cwrsbnt4AZsKpoza0WoQhM5lCsl7D1lhXtbWpK4q54HzPkN6uF65q6YbG/RlDm2zv/dcabCNmHAU6xdrtS4nazwLBqWKVVeVu9w9UxeE= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=ellerman.id.au; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=ellerman.id.au; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=ellerman.id.au header.i=@ellerman.id.au header.b=n8lDfCwV; arc=none smtp.client-ip=150.107.74.76 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=ellerman.id.au Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=ellerman.id.au Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=ellerman.id.au header.i=@ellerman.id.au header.b="n8lDfCwV" DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ellerman.id.au; s=201909; t=1718450992; bh=uMAJ2SHRBiH5u1yHyzDZ7jFDvcJVu32MG4V/WgCPaYE=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=n8lDfCwVc1Lp8Yq8vSW8bKghtMAfb9n95XlnTbNS8IcuCeoNH69yAcBmXVy77pX9+ oDhkr9vFcl/YMYG0/nn/QU7Anv2/teLkCkJe2BM5hh4M0cTxla0dZxsV9uY/yKrjH+ sCvZSzSPnQ0uMf9kK0Os8p30YiyFUF/esmpcL/fpt/D5Rbnaoqx6dcSOSe3qQHDWY+ VSab6ESnuK7X5sIiHPedyLHZiivGhHloY76LaVbwTZMjDVjF/bvgipSsXFaq+jHvSc 9T36qh/FMjyqt63dfd4d4zrqMMMTlRhuBWKJvS3B8Y/4+tNAw3SgpEd6F67kJP9X+R 0+OMPWM9vqdPQ== Received: from authenticated.ozlabs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by mail.ozlabs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4W1YpR2sljz4wqK; Sat, 15 Jun 2024 21:29:51 +1000 (AEST) From: Michael Ellerman To: Geert Uytterhoeven , Konstantin Ryabitsev Cc: Jan Kara , Thorsten Leemhuis , "ksummit@lists.linux.dev" Subject: Re: [MAINTAINERS SUMMIT] [4/4] Discuss how to better prevent backports of commits that turn out to cause regressions In-Reply-To: References: <20240613095917.eeplayyfvl6un56y@quack3> <20240613-rustling-chirpy-skua-d7e6cb@meerkat> <87plsjoax6.fsf@mail.lhotse> <20240614-almond-lorikeet-of-reading-6d959f@lemur> Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2024 21:29:48 +1000 Message-ID: <87msnmo34j.fsf@mail.lhotse> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: ksummit@lists.linux.dev List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Geert Uytterhoeven writes: > Hi Konstantin, > > On Fri, Jun 14, 2024 at 4:38=E2=80=AFPM Konstantin Ryabitsev > wrote: >> On Sat, Jun 15, 2024 at 12:29:09AM GMT, Michael Ellerman wrote: >> > > 1. disambiguates Link: trailers so they point to relevant online dis= cussions >> > > 2. allows tooling like b4, patchwork, etc, to reliably match commits= to >> > > submissions for the purposes of better code review automation >> > > 3. allows stable and similar projects to better track series groupin= g for >> > > commits >> > >> > Message-Id: sucks, I want a link I can open with a single click. >> >> But why would you want to, on a regular basis? Viewing the series submis= sion >> has got to provide near zero useful info -- if it was accepted into the = tree, >> then at most it would have a couple of stray code review trailers. > > I open these links regularly (as in daily), for various reasons: > - Finding the thread to reply to when reporting a bug, > - Checking for new Rb-tags given, > - As a starting point for reading earlier submissions of the > same patch, > - ... Yep, all those. I also use them to check that the version of a patch I have committed locally in my testing tree is still the latest submission, before pushing. Because the time between applying a patch and pushing it can be days if it needs lots of testing. Another case from yesterday was a ~3 year old patch, someone was asking about backporting. I opened the link to the submission and saw that someone had replied to it reporting a bug (that I had forgotten about). cheers