From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A057F102E for ; Wed, 26 Sep 2018 06:54:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mga06.intel.com (mga06.intel.com [134.134.136.31]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DC7F625A for ; Wed, 26 Sep 2018 06:54:03 +0000 (UTC) From: Jani Nikula To: Joe Perches , James Bottomley , Shuah Khan , ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org, Greg Kroah-Hartman , clm@fb.com, dan.j.williams@intel.com, Jonathan Corbet , olof@lxom.net, rostedt@goodmis.org, torvalds@linux-foundation.org In-Reply-To: References: <1537830902.4935.1.camel@HansenPartnership.com> Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2018 09:54:00 +0300 Message-ID: <87k1n8vjef.fsf@intel.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [TECH-TOPIC] Review - Code of Conduct: Let's revamp it. List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , On Mon, 24 Sep 2018, Joe Perches wrote: > On Mon, 2018-09-24 at 16:15 -0700, James Bottomley wrote: >> as a maintainer, I'm happy to try to police >> civility by calling adverse behaviours out on the list > > Good for you, but that's not necessarily something others > might want to do. Nor should have to. I think the only way any code of conduct is ever going to work is top-down, with maintainers leading by example, both in terms of following and enforcing the CoC. It's not going to work bottom-up, nor with everyone always involving the TAB directly. For the most part, it's just a matter of explicitly asking people to be civil anyway. This may well be the biggest reason the "code of conlict" did not succeed, despite the large number of acks. BR, Jani. -- Jani Nikula, Intel Open Source Graphics Center