From: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>
To: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
Alexandre Belloni <alexandre.belloni@bootlin.com>
Cc: Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.ibm.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>,
Sasha Levin <sashal@kernel.org>,
ksummit@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: Proposal: Enhancing Commit Tagging for Stable Kernel Branches
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2024 09:00:01 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87h6cqya32.fsf@trenco.lwn.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2024071515-zestfully-womankind-1901@gregkh>
Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> writes:
> On Mon, Jul 15, 2024 at 04:34:19PM +0200, Alexandre Belloni wrote:
>> I'm very surprised that it didn't cross anyone's mind yet that
>> contributors and maintainers don't bother using Cc: stable because they
>> don't care about stable for various reasons. So the behaviour is nether
>> good nor bad and doesn't have to be penalized.
>
> Totally true. The first rule of the stable tree is "it will not put
> additional burden on any developer or maintainer that doesn't want to
> participate in it." So if you don't want to deal with it, wonderful,
> don't take anything and just don't worry about it.
I must confess I've been wondering about this, since I've seen the above
policy expressed a number of times over the years. Stable participation
is entirely optional. But then this conversation has included things
like:
> All our documentation explicitly says that a stable tag is a *must*,
> we've been nagging folks to add it when they haven't, and we give them
> the spiel whenever we're asked why a certain fixes-only commit didn't
> make it into the stable trees.
Sasha, https://lore.kernel.org/all/ZpQbQa-_8GkoiPhE@sashalap
> Anyway, if people want to stick to the current, documented, process,
> great, but as-is, trying to get people to follow that is rough and not
> really working.
Greg, https://lore.kernel.org/all/2024071528-cahoots-reacquire-9eab@gregkh
So, to me, the real question here is: what is the actual policy? Are
developers and maintainers expected to put in stable tags the way they
are expected to add Signed-off-by, or is it a fully optional practice?
In the latter case, I'm not sure how much good messing with the tags
will do.
Thanks,
jon
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-07-15 15:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-07-14 12:31 Sasha Levin
2024-07-14 13:35 ` James Bottomley
2024-07-14 15:35 ` Andrew Lunn
2024-07-14 16:34 ` James Bottomley
2024-07-14 18:38 ` Sasha Levin
2024-07-14 19:20 ` James Bottomley
2024-07-14 20:18 ` Sasha Levin
2024-07-15 18:00 ` Theodore Ts'o
2024-07-15 18:07 ` Mark Brown
2024-07-15 19:06 ` Dan Carpenter
2024-07-15 19:23 ` Steven Rostedt
2024-07-15 19:24 ` James Bottomley
2024-07-15 19:28 ` Steven Rostedt
2024-07-15 19:30 ` James Bottomley
2024-07-15 19:39 ` Dan Carpenter
2024-07-16 6:30 ` Greg KH
2024-07-15 20:25 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2024-07-15 20:47 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2024-07-16 6:28 ` Greg KH
2024-07-16 12:20 ` Takashi Iwai
2024-07-17 22:05 ` Dan Carpenter
2024-07-18 7:34 ` Takashi Iwai
2024-07-18 14:48 ` Dan Carpenter
2024-07-18 14:56 ` James Bottomley
2024-07-18 16:36 ` Dan Carpenter
2024-07-19 0:49 ` NeilBrown
2024-07-19 1:35 ` Dan Carpenter
2024-07-19 11:55 ` Vegard Nossum
2024-07-23 14:14 ` Jiri Kosina
2024-07-16 14:51 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-07-16 19:38 ` Dan Carpenter
2024-07-15 6:15 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2024-07-14 17:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-07-14 18:47 ` Sasha Levin
2024-07-14 19:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-07-14 20:27 ` Sasha Levin
2024-07-14 23:05 ` James Bottomley
2024-07-14 23:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-07-15 8:02 ` Greg KH
2024-07-15 8:53 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2024-07-15 12:48 ` Mimi Zohar
2024-07-15 12:52 ` Mimi Zohar
2024-07-15 14:34 ` Alexandre Belloni
2024-07-15 14:40 ` Greg KH
2024-07-15 15:00 ` Jonathan Corbet [this message]
2024-07-15 15:07 ` James Bottomley
2024-07-15 15:19 ` Sasha Levin
2024-07-15 15:31 ` James Bottomley
2024-07-15 15:42 ` Dan Carpenter
2024-07-15 15:10 ` Greg KH
2024-07-15 17:45 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2024-07-15 18:04 ` Mark Brown
2024-07-15 20:51 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2024-07-16 6:25 ` Greg KH
2024-07-16 15:00 ` Mark Brown
2024-07-14 23:29 ` NeilBrown
2024-07-14 23:29 ` Steven Rostedt
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