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From: NeilBrown <neilb@suse.com>
To: Dan Carpenter <dan.carpenter@oracle.com>,
	Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.com>
Cc: ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [CORE TOPIC] More useful types in the linux kernel
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 10:38:35 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87d1lelt2s.fsf@notabene.neil.brown.name> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160811154429.GB4134@mwanda>

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On Fri, Aug 12 2016, Dan Carpenter wrote:

> On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 03:57:40PM +0200, Hannes Reinecke wrote:
>> > 
>> > I guess that almost all functions return only a few possible error codes?
>> 
>> Precisely. If we had a way of specifying "the return value is an errno
>> with the possible values '0', '-EIO', and '-EINVAL'" that would be
>> _so_ cool.
>
> I think that's a bad idea.  We should be propagating errors from the
> functions we call.  It should be able to change without breaking.

Should we?  I recently faced a bug caused by a (proposed) change to
btrfs which returned a different error code to the ->fh_to_dentry()
function. That was being propagated up to nfsd, and out on the wire in
the NFSv4 protocol.
Only the new error was invalid for the protocol and the client
(correctly) reported it to user-space rather than handling it
internally.

This happened because not enough thought/documentation had been given to
which error codes were sensibly meaningful.  I changed
exportfs_decode_fh() so that any error other than ENOMEM became ESTALE,
because that is all nfsd can sensibly handle.

I'm sure there are some (many!) paths where error codes should be
propagated transparently, but I don't think we should assume that is
always true.

>
> Smatch does a pretty good job of tracking return values, especially
> if you rebuild the database over and over once a day like I do.

So it is OK to keep a list of valid return values in a database, but not
OK to keep them in the code as documentation, and to alert the
programmer when they make a change so they can declare (and maybe even
document) if it was an intentional change?
Maybe I'm just misunderstanding your point of view.

Thanks,
NeilBrown

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  reply	other threads:[~2016-08-12  0:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-07-19 15:32 Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-19 17:31 ` Mark Brown
2016-07-19 18:52   ` Jiri Kosina
2016-07-19 20:39     ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-20 15:53     ` Mark Brown
2016-07-20 17:04       ` [Ksummit-discuss] [CORE TOPIC] [TECH TOPIC] Support (or move towards to) LLVM Jiri Kosina
2016-07-20 18:35         ` Alexey Dobriyan
2016-07-20 18:52           ` Mark Brown
2016-07-21  9:54         ` David Woodhouse
2016-07-21 13:41           ` Shuah Khan
2016-07-21 14:02             ` David Woodhouse
2016-07-21 16:21               ` Mark Brown
2016-07-23  3:28                 ` Behan Webster
2016-07-21 18:38           ` Jiri Kosina
2016-07-21 20:47             ` Paul Turner
2016-07-26 11:22             ` David Woodhouse
2016-07-19 21:08 ` [Ksummit-discuss] [CORE TOPIC] More useful types in the linux kernel James Bottomley
2016-07-20  0:08   ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-20  7:32     ` Julia Lawall
2016-07-20 12:11     ` Jan Kara
2016-07-28  3:33       ` Steven Rostedt
2016-07-19 21:26 ` Josh Triplett
2016-07-20  2:36   ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-30 18:03   ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-30 18:49     ` Josh Triplett
2016-07-30 19:34       ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-30 20:56         ` Josh Triplett
2016-07-30 22:21           ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-21 15:05 ` David Howells
2016-07-21 23:33   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2016-07-22  6:00   ` Hannes Reinecke
2016-07-22  6:14     ` Julia Lawall
2016-07-22 13:57       ` Hannes Reinecke
2016-07-22 14:40         ` Julia Lawall
2016-07-22 19:12         ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-07-26 11:48         ` David Woodhouse
2016-07-26 12:53           ` Hannes Reinecke
2016-07-26 13:59             ` Alexey Dobriyan
2016-07-26 13:53           ` Alexey Dobriyan
2016-07-27 12:40           ` Julia Lawall
2016-07-27 13:25             ` James Bottomley
2016-07-27 13:33               ` David Woodhouse
2016-07-27 17:21                 ` Bird, Timothy
2016-08-01 22:17                   ` Rob Herring
2016-08-12  1:29                     ` Stephen Boyd
2016-08-11 15:44         ` Dan Carpenter
2016-08-12  0:38           ` NeilBrown [this message]
2016-08-12 20:56             ` Dan Carpenter
2016-08-12  3:51           ` Matthew Wilcox
2016-08-12  4:01             ` Josh Triplett
2016-08-12  4:07               ` Matthew Wilcox
2016-08-12  5:29                 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2016-08-12  5:38                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-08-12  6:04                     ` Julia Lawall
2016-08-12  6:09                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-08-12  6:23                         ` Matthew Wilcox
2016-08-12  6:37                         ` Julia Lawall
2016-08-12  5:50                   ` Matthew Wilcox
2016-08-04  7:15       ` NeilBrown
2016-08-04 11:19         ` Julia Lawall
2016-07-22  7:03   ` David Howells
2016-07-22 10:10     ` Alexey Dobriyan
2016-07-22 10:13     ` David Howells
2016-07-22 10:22       ` Alexey Dobriyan
2016-07-22 10:53         ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-07-22 11:05         ` David Howells
2016-07-22 17:18           ` Julia Lawall
2016-07-22 18:19     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2016-07-22 19:43       ` Guenter Roeck
2016-07-28  3:40   ` Steven Rostedt
2016-07-28  7:12   ` David Howells
2016-08-02 10:48   ` Jani Nikula
2016-08-04 11:31     ` David Woodhouse
2016-08-04 12:07       ` Jani Nikula
2016-07-22 11:19 ` David Howells
2016-07-22 12:44   ` Linus Walleij
2016-07-22 13:26   ` David Howells
2016-08-12  4:42 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found]   ` <871t1ulfvz.fsf@notabene.neil.brown.name>
2016-08-12  5:34     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-08-12  6:23       ` NeilBrown
     [not found]       ` <87y442jytb.fsf@notabene.neil.brown.name>
2016-08-15 23:26         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-08-12  6:23   ` NeilBrown

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