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Wed, 6 Aug 2025 07:08:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dovecot-director2.suse.de ([2a07:de40:b281:106:10:150:64:167]) by imap1.dmz-prg2.suse.org with ESMTPSA id sVWnDFn/kmiQbQAAD6G6ig (envelope-from ); Wed, 06 Aug 2025 07:08:09 +0000 Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2025 09:08:08 +0200 Message-ID: <878qjxrkpz.wl-tiwai@suse.de> From: Takashi Iwai To: Jiri Kosina Cc: Takashi Iwai , Greg KH , James Bottomley , ksummit@lists.linux.dev Subject: Re: [MAINTAINERS SUMMIT] The amount of -stable emails In-Reply-To: <234rn3r2-qss4-s6s4-8o69-81o79rqp9s54@xreary.bet> References: <162r47q9-rp56-67so-7032-2r1rn36p03n6@fhfr.pbz> <2025080515-grandpa-prankster-ee83@gregkh> <87ectprmmg.wl-tiwai@suse.de> <234rn3r2-qss4-s6s4-8o69-81o79rqp9s54@xreary.bet> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.9 (Almost Unreal) Emacs/27.2 Mule/6.0 Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: ksummit@lists.linux.dev List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI-EPG 1.14.7 - "Harue") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 67F541F394 X-Rspamd-Action: no action X-Rspamd-Server: rspamd1.dmz-prg2.suse.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.51 / 50.00]; BAYES_HAM(-3.00)[99.99%]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[suse.de:s=susede2_rsa,suse.de:s=susede2_ed25519]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.20)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[]; RBL_SPAMHAUS_BLOCKED_OPENRESOLVER(0.00)[2a07:de40:b281:104:10:150:64:97:from]; SPAMHAUS_XBL(0.00)[2a07:de40:b281:104:10:150:64:97:from]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; DKIM_SIGNED(0.00)[suse.de:s=susede2_rsa,suse.de:s=susede2_ed25519]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; FUZZY_RATELIMITED(0.00)[rspamd.com]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; DNSWL_BLOCKED(0.00)[2a07:de40:b281:106:10:150:64:167:received,2a07:de40:b281:104:10:150:64:97:from]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_BLOCKED_OPENRESOLVER(0.00)[2a07:de40:b281:106:10:150:64:167:received]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[suse.de:+]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; DBL_BLOCKED_OPENRESOLVER(0.00)[suse.de:dkim,suse.de:mid,imap1.dmz-prg2.suse.org:rdns,imap1.dmz-prg2.suse.org:helo] X-Spam-Score: -3.51 On Wed, 06 Aug 2025 09:00:49 +0200, Jiri Kosina wrote: > > On Wed, 6 Aug 2025, Takashi Iwai wrote: > > > > The question is whether it's really worth all the e-mail traffic this > > > is generating, if people are just filtering those away. > > > > > > For context searches if some particular information regarding stable > > > patch history is needed, we can still do lore/lei queries nicely and > > > easily. Is there any other usecase (that people are actually actively > > > using) for it? > > > > In rare cases, patches are incorrectly applied. That can't be > > verified without the actual patch. > > > > Usually it happens with a cherry-pick with fuzz, so we might be able > > to catch suspected ones, but the inspection of the patch is still > > needed. > > Sure, but you have to do that pro-actively (in case you care in the first > place, of course). Doesn't then lore/lei provide you with the equal > functionality? Yeah, that's possible. It'll become a question of tooling, after all. The digest mail could list up the commits that couldn't be applied without fuzz, then one can fetch and verify, too. Takashi