From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A0CDABC8 for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2018 06:33:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mga06.intel.com (mga06.intel.com [134.134.136.31]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 911D58D for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2018 06:33:14 +0000 (UTC) From: Jani Nikula To: Tim.Bird@sony.com, mchehab+samsung@kernel.org, airlied@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <1537279328.3424.6.camel@HansenPartnership.com> <20180918162948.769dda1d@coco.lan> <1537356482.4640.7.camel@HansenPartnership.com> <20180919083749.49268562@coco.lan> <20180919090332.723c1b75@coco.lan> <1537366581.6816.1.camel@HansenPartnership.com> <20180919165552.0f30bbef@coco.lan> <20180919210122.694bf4a3@coco.lan> Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 09:33:05 +0300 Message-ID: <875zz0y8ym.fsf@intel.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Cc: James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com, ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [MAINTAINER TOPIC FOR KS] CoC and Linus position (perhaps undocumented/closed/limited/invite session) List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , On Thu, 20 Sep 2018, Tim.Bird@sony.com wrote: > My view is that it's intended to be a social document, with guidelines > for actions within the community (Actions by maintainers, actions > by contributors, actions by the TAB). To me it's more like rules for > a party at my house. If someone doesn't abide by the rules, I'll ask > them to leave the party. And I'll ask others at the party to remind people > to abide by the rules. But the person kicked out can hardly call the cops > on me for doing so. Agreed. I think there's much more value in adopting a widely used code of conduct than writing your own, or even trying to tweak it. If a project uses the Contributor Covenant, you pretty much know the rules without actually having to read another document and wonder what this all means. In this regard, it's really not unlike the GPL for copyleft licenses; one acronym tells you what you can and can't do. With that perspective, I think the changes proposed in this thread do more harm than good. If people still insist the text should be improved, I think the proper flow is to file issues or pull requests to Contributor Covenant upstream [1], and later update to a new version of the document. BR, Jani. [1] https://github.com/ContributorCovenant/contributor_covenant -- Jani Nikula, Intel Open Source Graphics Center